Well, I am on my second order with them and sorry to say it will probably be my last. I order all my items on Mondays normally and as of Thursday it still hasn't even shipped. YOU CAN BET YOUR A$$ THEY BILLED ME THOUGH !!!! They are an hour and a half from me and can't seem to get out my orders. I wanted to spend my weekend brewing not driving 3 hours. In their defense, the site is great, the products are cheap, and very good quality. I just can't put up with it taking this long when Northern Brewer, is a little higher priced, but would have already had it here. I really hate this but, looks like my business will continue to go north to N.B.