Now you got me worried
here is the bottle I'm using:
http://www.ikea.com/sa/en/catalog/products/20322472/
it feels like it can resist the pressure of carbonation, what do you say?
Brewing in a country with alcohol prohibition
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Now you got me worried
here is the bottle I'm using:
http://www.ikea.com/sa/en/catalog/products/20322472/
it feels like it can resist the pressure of carbonation, what do you say?
yes, I'm gonna prime with sugar, 1/2 teas spoon of table sugar in bottle.
yeah I think this is the case.
I deflated the condom and took about 6 hours to inflate again, do you think I can bottle now or should I wait?
You can, at least, buy beer and liquor in Djibouti.
guindilla
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"KORKEN series is ideal for preserving pickles and jams, serving beverages or keeping your cookies crunchy. The airtight seal locks in all the goodness."
Looks to me more like a wine bottle with flip-top rather than a real beer bottle. But I've seen mixed opinions, with some not even daring to try it and others trying w/o problems (which does not mean much either...):
http://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10390
https://www.reddit.com/r/Homebrewin...nyone_tried_bottling_with_these_ikea_bottles/
https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057190692
I (and many other homebrewers I have close by) am on the side of "I would not risk it". But I understand we have many other sources and your position is more complicated...
My suggestion would be: bottle in pet bottles, you've got 0.5L Coca-cola bottles that would work for your purposes and likely are more discrete. Those will stand the pressure for sure. But if you decide to go the Ikea way, just store the bottles in a safe place, so if they explode there is no one close by.
Oh... and if the bottles are transparent, avoid light at all costs, as the beer might deteriorate (skunk).
Good luck.
madscientist451
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Believe me, I am thankful for all I have here, both material things and what are referred to as God given rights. What burns me is that some are resentful for what they DON't have and then want to disrespect others.....
Back to brewing; I think you misunderstood my suggestion/idea.
You can buy non-alcoholic beer, so just make mead to replace the alcohol component that's missing from the beer you can buy.
Theoretically, the N/A beer is better than what you can make because you can't get proper beer ingredients.
You can get honey though, and if you make a 10% ABV mead you can just put some of that in a glass and then pour the N/A beer in. The beer will have enough carbonation so you won't have to worry about that.
You may have to adjust the recipe I posted to get more ABV, I forgot that the bread yeast won't attenuate fully.
So you wouldn't blend the beer and mead until you drink it.
If you can get frozen apple juice concentrate without preservatives, you can make a cider and use that as your alcohol component to add to your beer.
The Basic Brewing Radio Podcast did a mead w/bread yeast experiment
and the results were interesting, tasters, preferred the bread yeast mead compared to a commercial wine yeast mead, mostly because it was sweeter.
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Interesting post
You’re an adult, you know what you’re doing;sometimes you need to take the crooked with the straights
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the condom for an airlock
Good luck
You’re an adult, you know what you’re doing;sometimes you need to take the crooked with the straights
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the condom for an airlock
Good luck
I'm going to try a couple of IKEA bottles, and I will use PET bottles to bottle the rest of the batch.
Thank you so much!
Turkeyshot
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I have never tried the wild yeast route at all, but it sounds like it would give interesting results. The first link that I put, showed the types of yeast that might be collected so it is worth a shot.
After collecting some you can always keep making a starter to continue using
what you have, if the resulting beer turned out well.
triethylborane
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One of the few redeeming aspects of Djibouti. That place is full of crazy locals high on khat, Sudanese crisis made things . . . interesting. Great for forward ops, but also a great place to get an AK shoved in your face.
I will try to sneak in some brewing yest next time Im in a free country 👍🏻
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After spending some time in that part of the world, it makes me appreciate home so much more. I think this contributes in some odd way to an attitude I've developed over food and drink as I've aged a bit, and raises a question.
Would my sausage and ale be worth fighting over? Some of us already know the answer to that question.
rlmiller10
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A yeast alternative I tried was sourdough starter. It had about 90% attenuation and gave a flavor very similar to what an English ale yeast gives. In fact, although the recipe was for a malty pale ale, the result tested very much like an English brown.
I put in about a cup and a half of sourdough starter in a 4 gal batch and it took right off.
It did have some other microbes growing. After about 2.5 or 3 months the bottles that remained started to get sour and it poured as all foam. But, drinking it before then you would never know it was fermented on sourdough starter.
I put in about a cup and a half of sourdough starter in a 4 gal batch and it took right off.
It did have some other microbes growing. After about 2.5 or 3 months the bottles that remained started to get sour and it poured as all foam. But, drinking it before then you would never know it was fermented on sourdough starter.
rlmiller10
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If you want to go the mead route, here is a great recipe that I am sure you can get all the ingredients locally
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=49106
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=49106
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This is without a doubt the craziest homebrewing thread I've read on here.. Props to you DesertFox for doing something you love despite BIG legal circumstances.. Best of luck my friend, keep us posted on your brews 
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may I know what temperature did you ferment it?
thank you so much buddy, I will give it a try.
I don't know how I will handle staying dry for at least 3 months lol, but I'm definitely going to try mead.
This is without a doubt the craziest homebrewing thread I've read on here.. Props to you DesertFox for doing something you love despite BIG legal circumstances.. Best of luck my friend, keep us posted on your brews
I usually obey the laws, but I believe it's my right to enjoy a glass of beer at the end of the day while listening to music.
Thanks for the support, I'll keep you guys posted.
cheers!
I wasn't paying attention to the temperature and I don't have a thermometer (I know this is a big mistake).
I would say it was between 18C (65F) when I was home and the AC was on, and 30C (86F) when I was not at home and the AC was off.
It's the only country in that region where the citizens drive about 15 MPH all the time. The only rationale we could come up with was that no matter how fast you go you are still in Djibouti at the end of the day. You sort of have to have been there to understand.
The ONLY time they move fast is at 1300 every day when the Ethiopian Air Force C130 full of khat lands at the airport. They'll trample you if you get in their way then.
triethylborane
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Lol, very true, though that is one of the most dangerous airspaces in the world. ATC is under local control, so you have angry, crazy, sleepy, incompetent, ambivalent, and high ATCs in an airspace that has constant military traffic from US, Japan, France and now China, not to mention the commercial traffic. When I was at Lemonnier for CJTF-HOA operations, I think the FAA sent some advisors to help the local ATCs, but it obviously didn't help.
It was a great deployment, but the best part about it was stepping out of DJ and seeing other African countries.
DesertFox: just curious...what are the penalties for being caught bringing in brewing supplies to SA? I can't imagine it would be a comfortable situation if a Saudi customs official decided to poke around in one's suitcase, and found packets of brewing or wine yeast.
I will never again take for granted my routine 5-mile trek to the brew store.
I will never again take for granted my routine 5-mile trek to the brew store.
eigua
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DesertFox: just curious...what are the penalties for being caught bringing in brewing supplies to SA? I can't imagine it would be a comfortable situation if a Saudi customs official decided to poke around in one's suitcase, and found packets of brewing or wine yeast.
I will never again take for granted my routine 5-mile trek to the brew store.
2 to 5 years in prison, 50 to 100 lashes, then deportation and ban from entering the country. This is only if it's for personal use.
If it's for commercial distribution the penalty will be putting to death. but if there is no previous convictions, the judge will reduce the punishment to 15 years in prison and 100 lashes.
I wish it was this easy, but I'm working on it.
Maybe seek some counselling??
I cannot see that a beer is worth risking 2 to 5 years in a Saudi prison let alone the 50-100 lashes.........
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not if you know any of the prince
if you know a prince you will have loads of the finest scotch delivered to your door whenever you want.
if you get caught on a checkpoint there's a good chance the officer will take what you have if it's in small amounts and let you go without any consequences, and if you're a Saudi and from the same tribe as the officer's you'll definitely go away with what you have, and probably share a drink with him later.
the real problem is when you get caught by the religious police, they are very strict in applying the laws, thankfully their authorities have been limited very much in the last couple of years, especially in the city I live in.
"religious police"
Only the word makes me already wanna puke.
Only the word makes me already wanna puke.
Tarpon87
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I was in SA back in late 2014, it was interesting for sure.
No booze, but we had someone bring some whiskey over the bridge for us.
No porn, will lead you to the weirdest corners of youtube.
Nothing to do for recreation other than going out to eat or shop. This was just before women got the right to vote, they couldn't drive then but I heard that's changed now. There was talks of them putting in a movie theatre as well, that has hopefully happened.
No tattoos but my buddy got hooked up with someone that did it in his house.
The Boarder Guard we worked with were all pretty cool but the general population definitely wanted nothing to do with us.
No booze, but we had someone bring some whiskey over the bridge for us.
No porn, will lead you to the weirdest corners of youtube.
Nothing to do for recreation other than going out to eat or shop. This was just before women got the right to vote, they couldn't drive then but I heard that's changed now. There was talks of them putting in a movie theatre as well, that has hopefully happened.
No tattoos but my buddy got hooked up with someone that did it in his house.
The Boarder Guard we worked with were all pretty cool but the general population definitely wanted nothing to do with us.
If that particular bread yeast is not working well with the malt syrup, you can always try to ferment grape juice or make mead.
BTW, you have no problem getting hops?
BTW, you have no problem getting hops?
I worked on a drilling rig just offshore of Alexandria Egypt in the 90's. When the Egyptian customs agents came on board, they expected a bribe, which included several Playboy and Penthouse magazines. I remember one of the galley hands going crazy over a Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders calendar.
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DesertFox
I just read every word of this tread and I have to say WOW. I love your passion man. You have some guts. I love my beer but if I lived there I would quit brewing for my families sake but if I where single it on. You would fit right in, in the states. Best of luck to you and happy and safe as it can be brewing to you.
Paul
I just read every word of this tread and I have to say WOW. I love your passion man. You have some guts. I love my beer but if I lived there I would quit brewing for my families sake but if I where single it on. You would fit right in, in the states. Best of luck to you and happy and safe as it can be brewing to you.
Paul
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Watch “Locked up abroad”. There was an episode about this situation...... it didn’t end well.
triethylborane
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Ive met and trained with several Royal Saudi Land Forces officers over the years and they generally seem quite secular. I guess they are given that liberty as military readiness is the controlling objective, nevertheless the Mutaween can easily take up the slack. Ive never seen so many Rolex Datejusts slung on the wrists of officers, I think they get them as gifts from the King for making field grade.
General Order #1 for Iraq, Kuwait, Afghanistan, porn is contraband. Luckily that is rarely enforced otherwise the trial counsels would be slammed. We did have to prefer charges on a SGT who combat jacked with a Hustler in 2011 (who actually gets porn mags anymore?) for desertion under UCMJ.
Randomnoob
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My grandmother, before she died in 2014, told me about my great grandfather home brewing beer during Alcohol Prohibition in the United States 90 years ago. She grew up on a farm and my great grandfather planted hops in one of the fields where you can't see it from the road. He then bought malt extract and yeast at the store. Of course, sanitation not being what it is today, she told me about him having more than a few bottle bombs in the cellar.
Of course, this is a very German Catholic and Irish Catholic county. She said the sheriff generally didn't care too much about farmers making their own beer because he was probably doing the same at home. She said most of the county thought Alcohol Prohibition in the US was a joke and wasn't working.
Of course, this is a very German Catholic and Irish Catholic county. She said the sheriff generally didn't care too much about farmers making their own beer because he was probably doing the same at home. She said most of the county thought Alcohol Prohibition in the US was a joke and wasn't working.
When I found out as a teenager that you could make beer from the malt syrup still sold in old country stores, I (along with friends) had to try it. No one we knew had an exact recipe or where to get hops (if we even thought about that). It was something like "mix with a couple of gallons of water, maybe some sugar, throw in a couple of packs of bread yeast, bottle when that foam on top goes down".
We made a couple of batches and drank the bottles that didn't explode before we put homebrewing on hold.
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