Brewing for a software company - need help!

[broadbill]

Thanks for the help those of you who offered it.

Here is my help/word of advice. Pass on this idea, even if everyone at the company is saying "It's OK"....

Did "the guy whose idea this was" adequately explain the situation to Legal? Who knows....

Does Legal know enough about Alcohol laws to make an informed decision on this? Who knows...

Are all interested parties aware of the situation (the CEO, managers, etc.) and approve of Legal's decision? Who knows....


The fact of the matter is if this thing goes sour, you'll be the one who is out of a job and facing prosecution. Don't expect the company and/or legal department to come to your aid if this happens.

 

[Revvy]

Here is my help/word of advice. Pass on this idea, even if everyone at the company is saying "It's OK"....

Did "the guy whose idea this was" adequately explain the situation to Legal? Who knows....

Does Legal know enough about Alcohol laws to make an informed decision on this? Who knows...

Are all interested parties aware of the situation (the CEO, managers, etc.) and approve of Legal's decision? Who knows....


The fact of the matter is if this thing goes sour, you'll be the one who is out of a job and facing prosecution. Don't expect the company and/or legal department to come to your aid if this happens.

Plus 1 bazillion! You hit all the nails on their collective heads.

 

[Poobah58]

My concern would be this: What if you make this beer for your company and someone gets into an accident on the way home. Who are the injured parties coming after?

 

[jd3]

My concern would be this: What if you make this beer for your company and someone gets into an accident on the way home. Who are the injured parties coming after?

That wouldn't be MY concern. When was the last time Budweiser got sued for someone Drunk Driving. Even bars getting sued is very rare. They have to practice negligence.

My concern is the very real reality that there is little hope of doing this legally. How often are people prosecuted for homebrewing things? Not often, i assume. But do you really want to make the headlines with a boatload of federal offenses and felonies?

I'd hate to be the guy in prison for making beer.

 

[Airborneguy]

HOMEbrewing is the word for a reason. Think about it. Read the law that permits home brewing of beer and then honestly ask yourself if this is legal.

Besides, as great as this sounds now, you're not going to want to do this for free for long. Lofty intentions and flighty ideals are awesome, until real life and the labor involved becomes reality. No brewers work for free.

 

[motobrewer]

Besides, as great as this sounds now, you're not going to want to do this for free for long. Lofty intentions and flighty ideals are awesome, until real life and the labor involved becomes reality. No brewers work for free.

yeah i agree with this. i brew twice (5g) a month all grain on average, and that's enough for me, work-wise, not beer-wise its alotta work. especially when 90% of it isn't going to your stomach.

i know this thread is probably just a giant thunderstorm on your naked parade.

if you went thru legal and they did their due diligence, i probably wouldn't be concerned about the legal side. however, under my understanding of the law (which isn't worth much), i don't see how this could possibly be 100% legal. but, whateva

 

[Homercidal]

I can't see how this would pass as "Homebrewing". And I'd like to point out, that as much as we are trying to prevent you from any problems that might arise, breaking the laws surrounding homebrewing is also bad for everyone else homebrews.

You could potentially be causing harm to other homebrewers by flagrantly breaking homebrew laws. That is why we don't discuss distilling, pot growing, or encourage selling homebrew in any fashion. It's against the law and we'd all like to legally continue to enjoy our hobby.

Perhaps one day we can pass a law that makes it legal to sell a certain quantity of homebrew. I'd prefer that to getting shut down due to a bunch of people thumbing their nose that the system (not saying you are, but that may be what the feds see if you brew for your coworkers, not for personal consumption.)

 

[motobrewer]

again I agree, and if you think we're all being a bit maniacal, look up what happened in Oregon this past year, or what's currently happening in Wisconsin.

 

[Revvy]

He edited his first post, again. He's got what he wanted and is probably long gone from us party poopers. Or as moto said, naked parade ruiners.

 

[JetSmooth]

Anyone want to lay odds on how soon we'll hear about a "meth lab/whisky/distillation/OMGthinkofhtechildren" bust at a software company in Chico, Cali?

 

[gregpio85]

To OP, a word of caution: From the information you've provided (Working for a software company in Chico, CA,) someone who was trying to figure out who you were would not have a hard time.

There are eight software companies in Chico, CA. From your posts, I can assume two things. 1) You are part of a small upstart company (no big company with a legal department would touch this) and 2) You yourself are fairly young (ambitious enough to start planning to selling homebrew, then ditch it after realizing how risky it is).

From this I have concluded that your name may or may not be Jason ******. You may or may not have gone to California State University and majored in business information systems, interned at CareFusion, and started a now defunct company called tellit2atech.

 

[Revvy]

Ok Greg, right or wrong you just scared the crap out of me. Good job.

 

[wreals]

To OP, a word of caution: From the information you've provided (Working for a software company in Chico, CA,) someone who was trying to figure out who you were would not have a hard time.

There are eight software companies in Chico, CA. From your posts, I can assume two things. 1) You are part of a small upstart company (no big company with a legal department would touch this) and 2) You yourself are fairly young (ambitious enough to start planning to selling homebrew, then ditch it after realizing how risky it is).

From this I have concluded that your name may or may not be Jason Gordon. You may or may not have gone to California State University and majored in business information systems, interned at CareFusion, and started a now defunct company called tellit2atech.

Did you get that all thru his IP address?

 

[jd3]

No, he used logic.

 

[JetSmooth]

No, he used logic.

I thought logic was exicitly banned on this forum.

 

[kinison_fan]

Other than the who's who, the rest of this thread probably belongs in the debate forum.

 

[TheMan]

Lol way to **** on this guys picnic...oh well. And well done greg, google is wonderful. I was buying a car once on craigslist, the guy said he never raced the car. Simple google search pulled up a video of him racing on youtube lol. I asked him about it and I never got a response.

 

[jsweet]

I kinda think this thread should be deleted. Even though all of this information is easy to find and publicly accessible, I'm not really comfortable with the guy's personal info being posted when all he did was ask a question -- especially since the whole reason we are talking about this is because he was asking about an activity of questionable legality (though, I think most of us would agree, not really unethical). So what I'm saying is, this thread could potentially get him busted for something none of us really think he ought to be busted for (even if we think he shouldn't do it because of the possibility of said bustage).

In any case, that aside it's just rude to dig up somebody's personal info like that without a really good reason. Given my handle on this forum, one could probably find the names of my two young sons in a relatively short amount of time -- but if you do, I'ma reach through the intertubes and give you a virtual kick in the nuts!

 

[MyNameIsPaul]

I kinda think this thread should be deleted. Even though all of this information is easy to find and publicly accessible, I'm not really comfortable with the guy's personal info being posted when all he did was ask a question -- especially since the whole reason we are talking about this is because he was asking about an activity of questionable legality (though, I think most of us would agree, not really unethical). So what I'm saying is, this thread could potentially get him busted for something none of us really think he ought to be busted for (even if we think he shouldn't do it because of the possibility of said bustage).

In any case, that aside it's just rude to dig up somebody's personal info like that without a really good reason. Given my handle on this forum, one could probably find the names of my two young sons in a relatively short amount of time -- but if you do, I'ma reach through the intertubes and give you a virtual kick in the nuts!

You basically just asked us to do all of that just to prove to you that we can!

 

[jsweet]

Don't make me eKick your balls!

 

[mikeysab]

To OP, a word of caution: From the information you've provided (Working for a software company in Chico, CA,) someone who was trying to figure out who you were would not have a hard time.

There are eight software companies in Chico, CA. From your posts, I can assume two things. 1) You are part of a small upstart company (no big company with a legal department would touch this) and 2) You yourself are fairly young (ambitious enough to start planning to selling homebrew, then ditch it after realizing how risky it is).

From this I have concluded that your name may or may not be Jason ******. You may or may not have gone to California State University and majored in business information systems, interned at CareFusion, and started a now defunct company called tellit2atech.

Ooohhhh, do me, do me, do me

 

[gregpio85]

Ooohhhh, do me, do me, do me

Did you recently buy a fishing rod to go fishing near the marina?

Does either you or your house neighbor have a pool?

If you google map your house and go to street view is there a black 4 door sedan (possibly a Jetta or a hyandai) in either you or you neighbors driveway and a red ford windstar on the street in front of your neighbors?

If so you may...

Be a Leo
be recently divorced with two kids
Like country music.
Have worked in Manhattan for almost 20 years
Need to update your myspace page! seriously that **** is old. Just delete it.


St Joseph's By the Sea in '93

Peter
Nancy
Joseph
Enrica
Alexander

The address and telephone I found might not be right since it looks like you got divorced after your second kid, but you never know, someone had to keep the house.

Edit: Moral of the story (besides that I need to find a better use of my time): All the random info you post about yourself in all the random forums you're in adds up to a pretty complete picture. If you get freaked out by that, manage your online identity better.

Edit 2: Delete away admins!

 

[gregpio85]

(though, I think most of us would agree, not really unethical).

(even if we think he shouldn't do it because of the possibility of said bustage).

Sounds guilty

 

[mikeysab]

Did you recently buy a fishing rod to go fishing near the marina?

Does either you or your house neighbor have a pool?

If you google map your house and go to street view is there a black 4 door sedan (possibly a Jetta or a hyandai) in either you or you neighbors driveway and a red ford windstar on the street in front of your neighbors?

If so you may...

Be a Leo
be recently divorced with two kids
Like country music.
Have worked in Manhattan for almost 20 years
Need to update your myspace page! seriously that **** is old. Just delete it.

St Joseph's By the Sea in '93

Peter
Nancy
Joseph
Enrica
Alexander

The address and telephone I found might not be right since it looks like you got divorced after your second kid, but you never know, someone had to keep the house.

Edit: Moral of the story (besides that I need to find a better use of my time): All the random info you post about yourself in all the random forums you're in adds up to a pretty complete picture. If you get freaked out by that, manage your online identity better.

Edit 2: Delete away admins!

About half right. Not bad.

 

[gregpio85]

About half right. Not bad.

I see what you did there. Well played ; )

 

[Yuri_Rage]

This thread has run its course.