Brew Masters on Discovery w/ Sam Calagione

[bknifefight]

Me neither, but not because I don't really want to I just have other shows at that night/time I would watch first.

That's why they made DVRs. My DVR is my new best friend.

 

[Bluesssman]

That's why they made DVRs. My DVR is my new best friend.

+! Me too!!!! Tough for people doing commercials as I fast forward through them. Personally, I really enjoyed the last show...

Gary

 

[jgln]

That's why they made DVRs. My DVR is my new best friend.

Yeah I know.

 

[BeerWars]

I don't mean to sound like a pessimist, just more of a realist. Those 100% wholesome ingredients...are you growing and malting your own barley, from your own seed bank? I think Monsanto/Cargill are adding more political clout than the beer industry.

I agree in controlling what you are doing and not supporting the political machine, while keeping it feasible. I think making my own helps, I just think saying is it "100% wholesome", if the ingredients are not, is being naive.

You mean the same ingredients that all beers use? I am not malting my own home grown barley. But I am getting the best quality grain that I can buy, sifting them, picking out bad grains, and crushing my own. Detail that NO commercial brewery is going through.

Your definition of wholesomeness is unobtainable. Let's say that you have your very own seedbank, you did not create those seeds; which means they came from someone and some plant before you (origins and ancestry unknown) and most likely tainted due to cross farm pollination by different genetics (perhaps even Monsanto's). And even an organic farmer would not know the complete supply chain of his soil / fertilizer / compost due to similar externalities. Not to mention the energy and equipment required to harvest and malt comes from sources with equally large lobbies or unsavory workers.

So while you may not agree that my ingredients are "100%" wholesome based on your impossible definition. I contend they are 100% wholesome in terms of quality and healthfulness. Which are the only things that I care about.

 

[motobrewer]

You mean the same ingredients that all beers use? I am not malting my own home grown barley. But I am getting the best quality grain that I can buy, sifting them, picking out bad grains, and crushing my own. Detail that NO commercial brewery is going through.

commercial breweries don't crush their own grain!?

you still haven't proven that because you use briess malt and miller uses briess malt, yours is somewhat "more wholesome"

 

[bknifefight]

commercial breweries don't crush their own grain!?

you still haven't proven that because you use briess malt and miller uses briess malt, yours is somewhat "more wholesome"

It's more wholesome because he said so, what is there not to get?!? I also don't understand. BeerWars has mentioned his beer being more healthy as well. Most homebrew contains a lot more calories that anything BMC. What makes it healthier?

 

[BeerWars]

It's more wholesome because he said so, what is there not to get?!? I also don't understand. BeerWars has mentioned his beer being more healthy as well. Most homebrew contains a lot more calories that anything BMC. What makes it healthier?

You're serious? http://tinyurl.com/2dkwvn2

 

[motobrewer]

http://tinyurl.com/3ylvgb8

 

[BeerWars]

commercial breweries don't crush their own grain!?

you still haven't proven that because you use briess malt and miller uses briess malt, yours is somewhat "more wholesome"

You are in the wrong hobby it you really think that light stabelized hop extract is more wholesome than whole leaf cascades.

Nice troll.

 

[BeerWars]

http://tinyurl.com/3ylvgb8

He specifically mentioned BMC.
Miller?
Budweiser?
Coors?

Nice troll.

 

[motobrewer]

He specifically mentioned BMC.
Miller?
Budweiser?
Coors?

Nice troll.

you said nice troll twice. and i haven't been talking about BMC.

you came on here and specifically said your beer is "more wholesome and healthful" than commercial beers because you "pick out bad grains" (whatever the h*ll that means, lol) and "crush your own"

 

[scottland]

You are in the wrong hobby it you really think that light stabelized hop extract is more wholesome than whole leaf cascades.

Nice troll.

While Bud/Miller/Coors may use stabilized hob extract, few to no micro/craft breweries do. So yes, I don't doubt your beer is more wholesome than the light American pilsners that most of America drinks, but that's kind of a given. I don't need to tell you the sirloin burgers I make at home are more wholesome than McDonalds.

And while you can claim your beer is more 'wholesome' than craft beer, you're really splitting hairs at this point. And while I'm not a moderator, I can tell you that this thread is getting quite a bit off topic and not very civil. Toning it down wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[stageseven]

Never mind.. not worth it....

 

[passedpawn]

I can't wait till tonight! (the next episode is tonight, right?)

This is the only tv I watch all week . lame, I know.

 

[jgln]

I can't wait till tonight! (the next episode is tonight, right?)

This is the only tv I watch all week . lame, I know.

I thought it was Thursday night, now Wednesday???

 

[scottland]

It's still Thursday night.

 

[passedpawn]

I thought it was Thursday night, now Wednesday???

Aw crap. I thought today was Thurs. I've been working too much.

 

[jgln]

Aw crap. I thought today was Thurs. I've been working too much.

I feel for you, that is not good to find out you still have two more days of work when you thought you only had one.

 

[mkwasnie]

First off, I would like to thank myself for ruining this thread.

Secondly, I was just pointing out that not supporting commercial breweries, because they contribute to political gluttony sounds like a poor argument when buying grain would support that also.

 

[olllllo]

Thanks to the haters, Sam's Brewing up a Business book is a permanently affixed ad on HBT.

Go on now. Tell us how Sam isn't Charles Bukowski.

 

[wyzazz]

I can't wait till tonight! (the next episode is tonight, right?)

This is the only tv I watch all week . lame, I know.

You're like a little girl waiting to watch the next music video that (insert current boy band here) puts out. I think you may have a bit of a man-crush on Sam!

Now if you'll excuse me I have to make sure the DVR is set to record Brewmasters...

 

[BeerWars]

you said nice troll twice. and i haven't been talking about BMC.

you came on here and specifically said your beer is "more wholesome and healthful" than commercial beers because you "pick out bad grains" (whatever the h*ll that means, lol) and "crush your own"

You are 100% right. All beers are equal. Unfiltered, unpasteurized beer made with only whole grains that is naturally carbonated using only premium ingredients that are tailored to my palette is the exact same as commercial examples.

Are there beers that are unfiltered, unpasteurized, and naturally carbonated? Sure. Am I going to seek them out and buy everyone trying to find one that I like when I can make any style of beer I like with the ingredients that I choose, and the method I choose? Absolutely not.

Am I going to continue this banter with you? Absolutely not. You are right, I don't know what I am talking about. How dare I prefer to drink something that the board you are on is dedicated to for reasons that differ from your own. I am not selling you on anything, nor am I trying to convert you.

 

[mikeysab]

That dude is everywhere I look lately. He's got a tv show, his book ad is on HBT permanently, and he's in a Sabco ad in BYO. If I come home and find him in bed with my wife, ill lose it.

 

[BeerWars]

First off, I would like to thank myself for ruining this thread.

Secondly, I was just pointing out that not supporting commercial breweries, because they contribute to political gluttony sounds like a poor argument when buying grain would support that also.

If only you knew specifically what policies I am against could you comment on the foundation of my decisions.

 

[motobrewer]

How dare I prefer to drink something that the board you are on is dedicated to for reasons that differ from your own. I am not selling you on anything, nor am I trying to convert you.

the board I am on has nothing to do with beer, it is dedicated to saving energy in commercial buildings. Sounds like you might be for that?

It also sounds like you've watched beerwars far too many times

 

[MBasile]

Aw crap. I thought today was Thurs. I've been working too much.

You had me concerned! I assumed you were right and thought "****, did I miss a final yesterday???"

 

[BeerWars]

the board I am on has nothing to do with beer, it is dedicated to saving energy in commercial buildings. Sounds like you might be for that?

It also sounds like you've watched beerwars far too many times

 

[vicratlhead51]

I really like dogfish head ipas, but I can see why some people wouldn't. I think their ipas are a little more mellow and balanced than some of the bitter hop blast in your face American ipas. So if that's what you're looking for I can see why dogfish ipas would be disappointing but when I recommend an ipa to a craft beer newbie I usually steer em towards the 60 or 90 because they're a lot easier to drink than most American ipas out there

 

[BuddyBrews]

I really like dogfish head ipas, but I can see why some people wouldn't. I think their ipas are a little more mellow and balanced than some of the bitter hop blast in your face American ipas. So if that's what you're looking for I can see why dogfish ipas would be disappointing but when I recommend an ipa to a craft beer newbie I usually steer em towards the 60 or 90 because they're a lot easier to drink than most American ipas out there

Easier to drink when you have a wal-mart pallet. ooooooooooohhhhh yah i said it. lol

 

[passedpawn]

You're like a little girl waiting to watch the next music video that (insert current boy band here) puts out. I think you may have a bit of a man-crush on Sam!

Now if you'll excuse me I have to make sure the DVR is set to record Brewmasters...

That is amazing you figured that out from my post.

You are amazing! I can't wait for your next post!