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...I usually leave out the DME on purpose until flame out. It makes a better beer.

Not to hijack this thread or anything but this definitely caught my attention.

Do you leave out all of the DME until flame out or half of it or a specific percentage? How does it make a better beer?
 
When you boil, your wort helps to extract the hop oils to make the bittering. You need at least some malt extract to get it done right but you don't need all of it. The longer you boil the malt extract, the darker it becomes so your beer ends up too dark for the style. By adding part of the extract late in the boil, you avoid this darkening and the flavor change that accompanies it.
 
If that was my second brew and I was in your situation I probably would have done the same thing -- dump it and walk away. Now I have f-ed up so many times I know there is a fix for a lot of the stupid things I have done while brewing. I encourage you to do some stupid things as well, it really increases your knowledge base rapidly!

So, sorry to hear about your brew but you'll know better next time.
 
By adding part of the extract late in the boil, you avoid this darkening and the flavor change that accompanies it.

so the sugars carmelize...I know this applies to liquid malt extract, but does it also apply to dry malt extract?
 

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