Blue Moon Clone

[Colorado68]

Going to try brewing Nilos #8 tomorrow, picked up the grains tonight.
Will try the oats in the boil method rather than the starch.
What style would be best for this recipe? 16A?
Beersmith, at 75% efficiency shows this coming in at 6.6 abv which seems too high.
Was hoping for a ABV in the high 5's
Would I be better off just making this a 6 gal batch?

 

[CTS]

Thanks Wayne!

That link just took me back to the same spot for some reason. But i found the post number and printed it out. I will make it to the recipe that you had in post #429 and see how I like it. I'm sure it will be the closest i have come yet to Blue Moon as all the other "kits" i have tried are not even close.

Thanks again.

 

[Catfish1320]

Brewed the original Wayne1 recipe from page 1 tonight. Just a 3.25 gal AG batch. Hit the exact numbers Beersmith said I would with the recipe.Only change is I had a wlp001 here so I used it. .5 oz coriander, and 1oz of sweet orange peel. Tasted amazing going into the fermenter, hope it tastes good when it comes out.

 

[nilo]

I have updated the recipe file where I included both Wayne's original (#1) and updated (#2) recipes, below. OG/FG/ABV/Color and IBU may vary depending on each ones' system or brewing tool. I have also updated the poll.
Let me know if anyone see any discrepancies.

Thanks,

 

[nilo]

Going to try brewing Nilos #8 tomorrow, picked up the grains tonight.
Will try the oats in the boil method rather than the starch.
What style would be best for this recipe? 16A?
Beersmith, at 75% efficiency shows this coming in at 6.6 abv which seems too high.
Was hoping for a ABV in the high 5's
Would I be better off just making this a 6 gal batch?

I had 65% efficiency in my system, my OG was lower.
My tool shows OG=1.056 and FG=1.010 for 75% efficiency and 152F mash temp. ABV would be around 6%.
You could mash higher, say 157F and reduce your ABV to the mid 5%.

 

[Colorado68]

I had 65% efficiency in my system, my OG was lower.
My tool shows OG=1.056 and FG=1.010 for 75% efficiency and 152F mash temp. ABV would be around 6%.
You could mash higher, say 157F and reduce your ABV to the mid 5%.

I ended up with 1.062 on 5 gallons so I added 3/4 gallon of water and got it down to 1.055. It's percolating away today.

 

[bdharstad]

Going to have to try this one

 

[Catfish1320]

I needed the 5 gal carboy for a Blonde Ale Im going to brew tomorrow so I racked this into a 3 gal carboy after one week in the primary. I cant believe how close the original recipe (scaled to a 3 gal batch) is to the original. I think the only thing I might do next time is just add a small amt of cara pils for a bit more mouthfeel. My wife is a blue moon drinker, and thats who I made this for, and I let her sample it out of the primary and she could not believe how close it was. I brewed Wayne1s original page 1 recipe, but used Saf 05, .6 oz of crushed coriander, and 1 full oz of sweet orange peel. Very very happy with it. This is even after letting the fermentation temp get out of control to 76* I got lucky, it didnt not do no damage. Its good

 

[CTS]

Feel like an idiot.... I am trying to order some grains for this beer. I am ordering from Austin Homebrew and it appears they do not carry the Weyermann brand. So I have found the Bohemian Pilsner Malt to replace the Weyermann Bohemian Pils malt but can not find the Pale Wheat Malt. Does it have another name that i might not be aware of?

Thanks!

 

[jwalker1140]

So I have found the Bohemian Pilsner Malt to replace the Weyermann Bohemian Pils malt but can not find the Pale Wheat Malt. Does it have another name that i might not be aware of?

Thanks!

White wheat:
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?cPath=178_21_71_112&products_id=102

 

[CTS]

White wheat:
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?cPath=178_21_71_112&products_id=102

Thank you very much!! Kinda though it was but thought I better ask.

 

[mredge73]

If Weyermann is a must have; brew masters warehouse is the place to go.
He also has coupon codes on his thread in this forum.
http://www.brewmasterswarehouse.com/

 

[tcw5028]

I did and it turned out fantastic!

I brewed 10 gallons. Kegged 5 (didn't last very long), and bottled 5 that I am selectively drinking.

I used Wayne1's percentages and used 1056 yeast instead of a belgian.

50.0% 10.25 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)
40.2% 8.25 lbs. Wheat Malt
9.8% 2.00 lbs. Flaked Oats

1.25 oz. Hallertauer Whole 19.3 IBU 75 min

2.00 Oz Corriander Seed 10 Min.(boil)
0.75 Oz Bitter Orange Peel 5 Min.(boil)

Acid Rest 20min @ 104
Protien rest 30min @ 122
Saccrification 60min @ 153
Mashout 10 min @ 168

OG: 1.052
FG: 1.012

3 weeks primary at 68 degrees
2 weeks cold crash secondary at 46 degrees
I'll be brewing this again for sure.

A few of my friends love Blue Moon. I am gonna have to try this. I realize that it's an all grain recipe but if I portioned it out for a 5 gallon batch could I use the brew in a bag technique? I'm still relatively new to brewing (moving from extract to partial mash/brew in a bag) so that might be a noob question but I am one haha.

 

[WVBeerBaron]

For those who AG - Do you like a protein rest with this wheat/barley/oat bill? I'm wondering if it's necessary.

Does anyone know, is the white wheat malt fully modified or close?

 

[nilo]

Yes, I know tsp means tea spoon, but the amounts seems to make sense if he meant table spoon instead. Anyway, feel free Wayne to chime in to correct us here.
By the way, will be brewing #9 this weekend with Wyeast 1010, American Wheat.

I have the BM#9 still fermenting after 18days. WY1010 is very slow, not sure if this is the way it supposed to bes since first time using it.
Had a sample yesterday from the carboy and it tastes....................bad, really bad
Lots of clove taste, which I hate. If coming from the yeast, then this was a no got for me. My experience with this off flavor is that it doesn't go away with time, so not sure, may dump this one.

 

[nilo]

and #9 is down the drain
What can I possibly do for #10, any suggestions? I think I will brew Wayne's #2

 

[tnsen]

OK...I have been watching on the sidelines on here, and I have to chime in....my batch of Nilos #7 just came ripe as of last weekend..and I gotta say plus 1.....looks, smells, and tastes like a blue moon. side note, I bought briess chrystal 40l instead of 10l(just a mistake) ...1oz McCormic Valencia..... .7 oz corriander So4 yeast, will definately brew this againe, I brew in a bag and used the corn starch.....Tom

 

[jwalker1140]

Just brewed up something close to a cross between Wayne 1 and Wayne 2:

5 lbs domestic 2-row (Briess)
4 lbs white wheat malt (Weyermann)
1 lbs flaked oats
0.75 oz tettnang @ 60 min. (17.5 IBUs)
0.50 oz freshly ground coriander @ 10 min.
0.75 oz dried sweet orange peel @ 5 min.
Wyeast 1056, rinsed slurry

Mashed at 152F, OG: 1.053, fermenting at 67F

Note to self: next time, use rice hulls!!! First time brewing on my new system -batch sparge in a round cooler with a braid- and it stuck a couple times. Not a huge deal, but it did slow things down. Will post tasting notes when it's ready.

 

[Catfish1320]

Just took a wine thief sample of the Wayne1 original page 1 recipe I brewed 3 weeks ago. Wow! To a friend and I, it's very very good. It was a 3.25 gal batch. I used 1oz of sweet orange peel, and .6oz of coriander. I used 001, but if i didnt already have cleaned 001, id use US-05 just for the ease. The orange is not overpowering at all, but it's there, you know your tasting orange. Most important SWMBO who is a Blue Moon drinker loves it. I will brew it again the same way.

 

[jwalker1140]

Fermentation is approaching 48 hours. It smells great and the airlock is bubbling rapidly but there is practically no krausen. It looks like it reached 1/2 inch, max, at some point and currently it's maybe 1/4 inch or less. Big white bubbles, like from a soda. I assume the flaked oats are affecting it but I don't remember this with any of my other Blue Moon attempts. Granted, they were all partial mash, but I don't think that would matter. I pitched ~200 ml of washed slurry harvested the day before, which is somewhat of an over-pitch according to mrmaltly.com. This is the fourth generation for this yeast and the previous fermentation was very normal and temp controlled at 67F. Thoughts? RDWHAHB?

 

[Catfish1320]

I'm totally new to AG but have 60 or so Partial Mashs and extract batches under my belt. I'd say that if you have yeast activity, your fine. RDWHAHB..and let it do its thing.

 

[jwalker1140]

Premature epostulation (hate it when that happens ). Ferment looks perfectly normal now.

 

[Chavi]

Nilo, which Blue Moon clone that you have made do you like best? I see a lot of people making you 8 and 6. I am trying to decide whether to go with your 6/8 or waynes 2. This thread is awesome btw. I have learned a lot.

 

[sloanfamilydsm]

This was my first attempt at a "Blue Moon" clone. I tried to follow the OP's recipe but ended up using what I had on hand. I'm excited to see how it turns out.

Blue Moon
5.0 Gallon Recipe

4.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row)
4.00 lbs. Wheat Malt
1.2 lbs. Flaked Oats

21 grams Centennial Pellet (11.6AA) 60 min

34 grams Ground Coriander 10 Min.
13 grams Orange Peel (Penzeys) 5 Min.

Wyeast British Ale II #1335 yeast cake from a Pale Ale

Protein rest 30min @ 122
Saccrification 60min @ 153

1.046 gravity
66% efficiency

Tastes great but took a couple weeks for the 34 grams coriander to mellow out.
The 13 grams orange peel never did shine through.

My next batch I will lower the coriander to 28 grams and increase the orange peel to 28 grams and see how that turns out.

 

[nilo]

nilo, which blue moon clone that you have made do you like best? I see a lot of people making you 8 and 6. I am trying to decide whether to go with your 6/8 or waynes 2. This thread is awesome btw. I have learned a lot.

#7

Correction, #7 without Irish moss

 

[Colorado68]

Brewed Nilos #8... wow!
Will be brewing this as a mainstay. Awesome is the response I get from everyone.
Thanks Nilo!

Note.. used oats in the boil instead of starch

 

[sethlovex]

Brewed Nilos #8... wow!
Will be brewing this as a mainstay. Awesome is the response I get from everyone.
Thanks Nilo!

Note.. used oats in the boil instead of starch

I thought oats had to be mashed?

 

[Chavi]

Just finished my first AG batch of Wayne #2 on Saturday! It was a stressful day trying to figure out my new electric system, but despite all the issues, I will have beer in ~2 weeks! I definitely want to try the Nilo #7 recipe too. Thank you to everyone who contributed!

 

[Colorado68]

I thought oats had to be mashed?

They can be added to the end of a boil to create mouth feel and haze, which is what I did instead of adding starch.

 

[heathcom]

Great thread and amazing information. I have jotted down quite a few things from everyones trials and will be brewing this weekend. Sticking with the #4 recipe with some minor tweeks to the orange/corriander ratios. I may be adding a bit of honey malt on my first run to see how that goes.
I do have some questions about the acid,protein and sacc rest temps from the original rexipe. My cooler tun isnt the greatest at temp control and maybe just sticking with 152 - 155 is the best and easiest but would it be worth trying to mash half the grains at the acid temp and the other half at the sacc temp than together for last protein temps? Kind of a newb at this but thought it might be worth asking.