Blue beer: lets beat this dead horse

[5hakesbeer]

Yeah this is incredible. Hope it all works out!
Also looking forward to final taste notes! [emoji482]

 

[RedIvan16]

Excited to see how this turns out for you. Very impressive you got that blue color!!

So, the blue color is coming from the carrots and their ability to keep the pH correct? If I tried this without carrots would it work?

 

[Grod1]

The blue color is coming from the flowers the deep blue is assisted by the Ph of the carrots along with the calcium in the marshmallows.
im pretty confident the beer would still be about the same color with out either of the those additions though. I did not leach the color out of the flowers well enough.If the AAs in the hop bill were much higher that could have given me a magenta color as well.
so far the unfermented wort taste normal no carrot flavor but some vanilla on the nose.
My co-worker said it tasted like trix but im pretty sure it was just the color/ name that gave him that impression.
but i can see how the large amount of corn+ rice could give that familiar breakfast cereal complex.

 

[Grod1]

I pulled a small sample today because i needed to know what it looked like.So far lookin great. im pretty sure i am going to add some clitora at the cold crash but im happy withe the color right now.I still have a cup of the unfermented wort and it seems to change color drastically depending on how the light is hitting it,oddly enough its different colors in different parts of the room even different parts of the glass!
The first picture in the taster glass is the partially fermented beer from Sunday. Besides the hint of vanilla on the nose It has a pleasant "beer" taste the corn/rice kind of give it a generic almost busch like taste except the hops are spot on, i hope that doesn't fade as the beer ages because its a damn enjoyable.

 

[TwistedGray]

You should join the next FotHB trade Here's the last one, for reference.

 

[NinjaBear]

Looks like you’re getting a bit of Magenta color… which would be expected from the acidity created during fermentation.

Try “dry hopping” with the blue pea flowers in secondary.

They should have a natural alkaline nature that will both add more blue and push the pH up and away from the red.

 

[AZCoolerBrewer]

http://www.oldbisbeebrewingcompany.com/In your quest, you can research this clear beer that I had in Bisbee AZ at Bisbee Brewing Company. The clear beer is called Salut!

 

[NinjaBear]

I made a beer about that light when I was making wine coolers.

Once my brewery space gets warm enough in spring, I want to try a similar process to try my hand at blue beer.

 

[passedpawn]

Grod, that’s pretty awesome.

 

[Grod1]

I hope if or when other people try a blue beer they post their tips, tricks or recipes in here.
i would love to throw some cliotoria in right now while its fermenting. I am afraid i will infect the beer so i will probably wait until its cold crashing.

 

[RedIvan16]

My heart is still set on using some sort of Latin American, blue/purple corn in a blue beer attempt. I think I'm going go your route by adding the blue pea flowers for color because your results were so spectacular. I'm not super interested in getting a sweet beer, do you think I can get those results using flaked corn, or a corn cereal mash, and adding the pea flowers like you have?

 

[NinjaBear]

I’d be curious to see your results.

When I was in Japan, they told me of a variety of sweet potato that is blue/purple popular in the southern isles… I never got down to try them. But a student did once bring me back a savory candy made from them. Which were quite good and a little sweet.

Perhaps they could add to your beer’s sweetness and add some more of the blue.

 

[TwistedGray]

When I was in Japan, they told me of a variety of sweet potato that is blue/purple popular in the southern isles… I never got down to try them. But a student did once bring me back a savory candy made from them. Which were quite good and a little sweet.

These grow in the south of Chile as well. They are quite sweet.

 

[Grod1]

All finished up and its tasting great.it dropped down from 1.059 to 1.012 so its 6.30 ABV. its blue in the right light but it turns a pretty stable magenta if you don't have the right lighting or if your holding your phone at different angles. its getting cold crashed tonight with the last of the flowers i had (16 grams) and in the am when im brewing i will pull my keg and carb op to about 2.00 volumes before giving it nitro.
I will take pics after the cold crash tomorrow.-(updated with cold crashed pics)
Its super crisp for a lactose cream ale, the lactose is basically undetectable.
the first pic next to the regular beer is before the cold crash.The others are after the cold crash.
I pulled 13.5 gallons for nitro. 5.5 for non nitro and 12 gallons to be long term soured.
The last picture in the hydrometer is a 12 gallon portion that i pulled to be sour. Its mixed with 100 unnatural blue raspberry slushy mix complete with blue1. that got dosed with sour batch kids from IMPERIAL yeast. its new gravity is 1.040. obviously if or when it sours it shouldn't be blue, but who knows with the amount of blue dye in that portion.that one i call Teachers on acid during snow storms or T.O.A.D.S.S.

I will update this when its carbed up and i can give some tasting notes from co-workers/friends. When i get a chance to throw it on the taps i will get a unbiased review/ rating.

 

[TwistedGray]

Congrats!!

 

[RedIvan16]

Looks great! Glad to see the color has survived intact. I think replicating your results may be something I want to try in a few months

 

[_BullDog_]

Now all you need is glitter.....

 

[Grod1]

glitter, naw.. gold flakes my man. Dosed directly into bottles,i've thought about it already, but not for this beer.

 

[NinjaBear]

Can you get some to me in Minnesota to try?

 

[TwistedGray]

^ I was hoping if I post in here enough it'll entice @Grod1 to join the FotD/HB trades.

 

[Grod1]

so0o0o0o
22 reviews so far average is about a 3.75 with some 5 and a .5 for a "watery" beer because there is some odd problem with the nitro tap that doesn't make sense to me. not to many tasting notes people are to amped about it being "purple" with that said its pretty damn purple....i failed at my first attempt at blue beer, at least a stable blue beer.I still need to try a few more times or its this is still up to the community to figure out.
there is also some people up set on instgram about me stealing their recipe. ... ****** jelly basterds. I(you guys) helped me make this beer from the ground up.

 

[passedpawn]

so0o0o0o
22 reviews so far average is about a 3.75 with some 5 and a .5 for a "watery" beer because there is some odd problem with the nitro tap that doesn't make sense to me. not to many tasting notes people are to amped about it being "purple" with that said its pretty damn purple....i failed at my first attempt at blue beer, at least a stable blue beer.I still need to try a few more times or its this is still up to the community to figure out.
there is also some people up set on instgram about me stealing their recipe. ... ****in jelly basterds. I(you guys) helped me make this beer from the ground up.

haha instadumb.

 

[Grod1]

Going hard right now talking about how he posted his recipe online.I wish he posted in this thread and helped me obtain what i was going for/ what the community wants obtain.but if he wanted blue his beer was a fail to.
Ben Alan/ copp, you on here?anyone know him? i dont have an instgram and i really dont care enough to make one and defend myself.he can come here if he wants and read the step by step break down of how i came to the grain bill at the end.

 

[NinjaBear]

Where are you seeing this Instagram attack? I’m curious.

 

[Grod1]

Well this beer got 40 ratings with a 3.77 on untapped its all gone except for 20Liters thats not nitro and the 15 gallons that is getting long term soured.
decent beer, fun but a fail on the blue. a step in the right direction maybe but its purple- colbolt -magenta basically the BIV in roygbiv
I will post in here when i do a few more experiments but for now this is an open ended challenge to the community!
good luck to anyone who tries next, please post results.

 

[TimmyWit]

Well this beer got 40 ratings with a 3.77 on untapped its all gone except for 20Liters thats not nitro and the 15 gallons that is getting long term soured.
decent beer, fun but a fail on the blue. a step in the right direction maybe but its purple- colbolt -magenta basically the BIV in roygbiv
I will post in here when i do a few more experiments but for now this is an open ended challenge to the community!

According to this article, that beer you mentioned in the first post uses Gardenias:
http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/10/abashiri-blue-beer.html

There's also a blue wine that apparently gets its color from anthocyanin and indigotine. It looks like you can get both of those on e-bay.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-un-fortunately-we-do/?utm_term=.c1b8ac6b204d

 

[NinjaBear]

Anthocyanin is the blue pigment in many foods (and is Ph sensitive) including the butterfly pea flower.

I’m not familiar with indigotin.

 

[Wolfbayte]

I once once considered adding Clitoris to my beer, but ultimately pussed out on the idea.

I'm having a hard time finding it anywhere.

 

[Lefou]

fred says real men don't care if they find it.

 

[WFox93]

OK, I gotta ask, how has this stuff carb'd up and taste?