Witbier Blue Balls Belgian Wit (Blue Moon Clone)

[rabidgerbil]

So has anyone brewed this with Wyeast 3942 instead of 3944? I was only able to get 3942 at my LHBS, and I am going to go ahead and brew with it, but I am curious if anyone has used BOTH, at different times, and found any major differences in the final product.

 

[BierMuncher]

Yo... Muncher... I am gonna brew this in the next day or two... what did you use for a fermentation temp? I don't remember seeing that in the notes.

I think this will ferment well at the 68-70 range....even higher with a Belgian yeast.

I had to toss up between the 42 and 44 so don't worry about it.

Happy brewing...

 

[rabidgerbil]

I think this will ferment well at the 68-70 range....even higher with a Belgian yeast.

I had to toss up between the 42 and 44 so don't worry about it.

Happy brewing...

Thanks man... now that I have a way to accurately control my fermentation temps, I am trying to be more accurate with that type of thing.

 

[tgrier]

Hey BM

Can I use basic 2-row for the base malt on this?

Well I am sure I "CAN" ... but ...thoughts?

 

[BierMuncher]

Hey BM

Can I use basic 2-row for the base malt on this?

Well I am sure I "CAN" ... but ...thoughts?

Sure. The wit tends to be on the malty side anyway with low IBU's.

You may want to kick up the coriander just a bit to counter the extra maltiness.

 

[tgrier]

Brewing this up tonight!..

Looking forward to it...

Thanks again for the recipe BM.

I will let you know how it comes out.

 

[HBDrinker008]

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
1 lbs Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 14.29 %
1 lbs Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 14.29 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 35.71 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 35.71 %
0.75 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 13.9 IBU
0.75 oz Coriander Seed (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
0.75 oz Orange Peel, Bitter (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Belgian Wit Ale (White Labs #WLP400) Yeast-Wheat

This is pretty much the recipe I am going with this weekend except I am sticking to the EKG and using 3# pale malt and 3# Flaked wheat.

How did this PM work out for you?

 

[PhilMcRevis]

I'm hoping to brew this weekend. but, I have a few ?s

1) I just noticed that the recipe doesn't mention irish moss. Should I use any?

2) On my package of coriander seeds it says that they should be ground. How coarsely should I do this? (I'll probably be doing this with a hammer so my options are leaving them as is, beating them up a little bit, or turning them to dust.)

 

[BierMuncher]

I'm hoping to brew this weekend. but, I have a few ?s

1) I just noticed that the recipe doesn't mention irish moss. Should I use any?

2) On my package of coriander seeds it says that they should be ground. How coarsely should I do this? (I'll probably be doing this with a hammer so my options are leaving them as is, beating them up a little bit, or turning them to dust.)

No irish moss for a with recipe. Cloudy (yeasty) is good.

Crush those coriander or you won't get any flavor out of them.

You can also use a beer bottle the way you would a rolling pin to crush them up.

 

[PhilMcRevis]

Another question...

I've been having a lot of trouble finding East Kent Goldings or Hallertauer in town.

This link lists Fuggle as an acceptable substitute for EKG.
http://www.brew365.com/hop_substitution_chart.php

My question would be how much will this impact my flavor and, Is it even worth it?

 

[BierMuncher]

Another question...

I've been having a lot of trouble finding East Kent Goldings or Hallertauer in town.

This link lists Fuggle as an acceptable substitute for EKG.
http://www.brew365.com/hop_substitution_chart.php

My question would be how much will this impact my flavor and, Is it even worth it?

Fuggles will work fine. The IBU's on this beer are low, and the hop profile is really non-existent. Any clean bittering hop is fine. Fuggles, Mt Hood, Saaz, Sterling, Galena, Phoenix....etc.

It's not the hops that makes this beer so you have flexibility.

 

[Soulive]

Hey BM, do you think this would benefit from 1lb of oats? I just want some silkier mouthfeel...

edit - meant to post this under the Blue Balls recipe

[MOD EDIT] - Moved

 

[Soulive]

Absolutely.

I think it's a great addition. Oats are a recognized adjunct for witbier.

1 pound per 5=gallon batch would give it nice texture and kick the ABV a bit.

Good stuff, I'm gonna brew this recipe + oats. Thanks brotha...

 

[SW Brewer]

Hey Bier,

Thanks for the recipe and the ingredient help. I have it now sitting nicely in my fermenter. It blew out the top a bit, but not enough to blow the bubbler off I am darned thankful for rice hulls. Those things kept the sparge drain going despite the thick arse mash. Cant wait to try it out.

Greg

 

[BierMuncher]

Hey Bier,

Thanks for the recipe and the ingredient help. I have it now sitting nicely in my fermenter. It blew out the top a bit, but not enough to blow the bubbler off I am darned thankful for rice hulls. Those things kept the sparge drain going despite the thick arse mash. Cant wait to try it out.

Greg

Gotta love the rice hulls.

Now...update that sig of your...

 

[SW Brewer]

Yeah, I know. Time is short around here with three kids and training for a century ride.

 

[Big "A"]

Ahhh YES!!! Thanks BierMuncher!!!

I Brewed Ten Gallons on Memorial Day..Very Nice Recipe I am Soooooo Glad I read on the forum a lot and bought some Rice Hulls. I used a pound Don't know if it was too much, just wonder if I could have used less. I forgot to add the coriander though...so I made a coriander tea and added the next day.

This will be the lightest beer I have made to date. :rockin:

 

[balto charlie]

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Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
1 lbs Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 14.29 %
1 lbs Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 14.29 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 35.71 %
2 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 35.71 %
0.75 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] (60 min) Hops 13.9 IBU
0.75 oz Coriander Seed (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
0.75 oz Orange Peel, Bitter (Boil 5.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Belgian Wit Ale (White Labs #WLP400) Yeast-Wheat

I am going to brew this beer this week and got all of the ingredients.
1st: The dry extract says 60% wheat malt and 40% light barley malt. So does the recipe mean 1 lb of wheat/barley AND 1 lb of light malt OR 1lb of each so get 2 lbs of Wheat/barley combo extract. The lbs said all of the wheat is sold like this.

2nd I will be using flaked wheat. I think the lbs was a little surprised with all of the flaked wheat. I've use flaked barley in stouts but only a pound at a time. Is flaked wheat just a wheat version of pale malt?? Does it add fermentable sugars and such? I did buy some rice hulls. Thanks for your inputs, Charlie

 

[SRTBREW]

Hey biermuncher, just wondering if you would approve on this bastardized version.

6lb 6-row
5lb wheat malt
.6oz marynka 8.6AA 60min (I've used this many times and it's a very clean bittering hop)
.75oz bitter orange peel 1 min.
.75oz coriander 1 min.
nottingham yeast
Primary 3 weeks at 68 degrees

What do you think?

 

[BierMuncher]

Hey biermuncher, just wondering if you would approve on this bastardized version.

6lb 6-row
5lb wheat malt
.6oz marynka 8.6AA 60min (I've used this many times and it's a very clean bittering hop)
.75oz bitter orange peel 1 min.
.75oz coriander 1 min.
nottingham yeast
Primary 3 weeks at 68 degrees

What do you think?

Sounds good. A bit kicked up on the grain bill which will lend a richer taste.

If that orange peel is dired, I'd allow more than 1 minute in the boil. It will take longer than that just to hydrate and sink into the boil.

I like to presoak my spice in warm water so they integrate faster...then give them 5+/- minutes in the boil.

 

[balto charlie]

BM Any thoughts on JnJ PM recipe. I was going to make it but then got to thinking about the 60/40 extract and think I should go w/ 2lbs of the 60wheat/40barley rather than 1 lb of 60/40 and 1 lb of LME. It would be closer to your 50/50 pale malt/flaked wheat. Charlie

 

[BierMuncher]

BM Any thoughts on JnJ PM recipe. I was going to make it but then got to thinking about the 60/40 extract and think I should go w/ 2lbs of the 60wheat/40barley rather than 1 lb of 60/40 and 1 lb of LME. It would be closer to your 50/50 pale malt/flaked wheat. Charlie

I like that idea. The higher grains ratio will keep the beer lighter in color as well.

 

[balto charlie]

I like that idea. The higher grains ratio will keep the beer lighter in color as well.

Thanks, back to the LBS

 

[SRTBREW]

Thanks for the reply biermuncher. The last blue moon clone I did I boiled the coriander and orange peel for one minute, and didn't get much flavor or aroma out of them. I'll try what you're suggesting and let them soak in warm water and boil for 5 minutes. Hopefully I don't get too much flavor.

On a different note I'm new to all grain. Most of your recipes are on my list to brew at the moment. Next will probably be your cream of three crops.

 

[CLDagen]

Hi, Looks like a great recipie. I am thinking about adding some Honey malt, anybody try this? How did it turn out??

 

[farmbrewernw]

Just tasted a hydro sample and I'm thinking this is gonna be one tasty ass beer!

 

[mkw87]

Has anyone used dry yeast for this recipe? I was looking at possibly Safbrew WB-06? Let me know your thoughts and/or experiences...

 

[BierMuncher]

Has anyone used dry yeast for this recipe? I was looking at possibly Safbrew WB-06? Let me know your thoughts and/or experiences...

I'm not familiar with that one. I used a new t-58 dry yeast recently (peppery...spicy) and it was very well received.

 

[blake74]

I'm planning on brewing BierMuncher's extract version of this brew in the next couple of days, and I've never used flaked wheat before. Does the wheat contain the necessary enzymes to convert starches to fermentables? (I assume it does or you probably wouldn't recommend doing it!) Just wanted to make sure before I head to LBS.

 

[bsay]

I plan to brew this soon using Safbrew S-33 dry yeast. I'll post how it turns out.