Black IPA?

[ArcaneXor]

Yes they have...I have the 2011 guidelines in my hand right now...and I'm not sore, and I have no issues with people learning...just wanted to point out that with regard to the BJCP...this debate is officially over. I agree that Cascadian Dark Ale would have been a better route to go, bringing beer style names back to regional areas like it used to be.

That's not the BJCP, it's the BA guidelines. BJCP is usually used for homebrew competitions (much to my chagrin), the BA guidelines for commercial competitions. The most recent BJCP guidelines are from 2008.

 

[onthekeg]

I like my beer, coffee and women the same.

Black and bitter.

 

[McGarnigle]

Cascadian Dark Ale sounds pretentious.

I like Black IPA and don't care about the contradiction.

 

[Caucasian]

What if i brewed a cda and used hops i grew in my yard, should i call it a pennsylvanian black ale?
Hops grow just about everywhere, naming a style based on another style, with slight alterations, for the region where some hops come from seems pretentious to me.

 

[onthekeg]

What if i brewed a cda and used hops i grew in my yard, should i call it a pennsylvanian black ale?
Hops grow just about everywhere, naming a style based on another style, with slight alterations, for the region where some hops come from seems pretentious to me.

Call it anything you want to. The origin of the Black IPA was in Vermont in 1994 anyway. Noonan's brewpub brewed it then. There are many other hops in the world to make a hoppy beer with, so I despise the PNW trying to have their own beer term on something that wasn't created there. Maybe I'm a purist.

 

[ScootersAle]

Call it anything you want to. The origin of the Black IPA was in Vermont in 1994 anyway. Noonan's brewpub brewed it then. There are many other hops in the world to make a hoppy beer with, so I despise the PNW trying to have their own beer term on something that wasn't created there. Maybe I'm a purist.

+1. Vermont Black Ale (VBA) is what I lean toward. (I may be bias )

Also, the NW did not always dominate the Hop growing in the US.

 

[unionrdr]

So,by that definition,if I brew a batch here in OH,I would call it "Buckeye Black" IPA? You know what,actually,that's not bad...

 

[ArcaneXor]

So,by that definition,if I brew a batch here in OH,I would call it "Buckeye Black" IPA? You know what,actually,that's not bad...

Swamp Head calls their Blackwater "Floridian Dark Ale". So Buckeye would be fine...

BTW, Troy Smith just got sacked again!

 

[unionrdr]

Hmmm...I grew up with a Troy Smith?...I already have my 1st IPA about ready to dry hop. I've dubbed it "BuckIPA".

 

[bovineblitz]

Well it's black and it's a subcategory of an IPA. If you say "black ale" I think it's basically an ale version of a schwarzbier and that's not really correct.

Black IPA is a good descriptor and good name. Black + pale = black anyways.

 

[geocool]

For a consumer who wants to know in advance what a beer will be like, the name "Black IPA" communicates that information clearly and concisely. IBA is confusing and rhymes with IPA. Cascadian Dark Ale is just a mess of a name and disliked outside of the PNW. The way I see it, if KFC can sell Tender Roast and if Dunkin' Donuts can sell "Iced Hot Chocolate" then I don't see why brewers can't sell Black IPA. Also, the BJCP should create a "Specialty IPA" subcategory so Black IPA's won't be consigned to category 23 anymore.

 

[McGarnigle]

For a consumer who wants to know in advance what a beer will be like, the name "Black IPA" communicates that information clearly and concisely. IBA is confusing and rhymes with IPA.

Good point.

I'll have the IBA? The IPA? No, the IBA.