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Llarian said:
Correlation does not imply Causation. =)

I really don't think the smoking makes a whole lot of difference, and I suspect given a suitable large sample, you'd find that born out.

-D

Depends. I think there are so many factors to it that it is like most studies done. Like the one I saw on tooth plaque correlating to heart disease. Does that mean if you have plaque on your teeth you have heart disease? I would probably guess not...more likely there is an cause of the plaque which has a correlation between the two outcomes.

All I am saying, is from my own experience, that for the time I smoked my taste buds were so dull it wasn't funny. Thing is, I never realized it until I quit (and quite rapidly afterwards I might add) At the time my experience with beer (and specifically for this subject) hoppy beer, was limited. However, had I the opportunity to sample them I can imagine that I would have wanted them. But then again that could just be me :D.

Long and short I think you could find causal cases based on the deading of taste buds, but more than likely they will be minor. Like I said, a blind taste test with several levels of hoppy beers to smokers and see what you get...and even that may add to the confusion :fro:

Why am I writing books today...
 
brewt00l said:
I know plenty of people who smoke and will not touch a hoppy beer.

I have friend that smokes like a stack and almost strictly drinks Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. The guy brings like a case or more on board his yacht when we are sailing or racing just to make sure he doesn't run out, and that is on top of all the other beer the crew bring to the boat for Wednesday night beer can races. LOL. :drunk:

-- Trev
 
zoebisch01 said:
Depends. I think there are so many factors to it that it is like most studies done. Like the one I saw on tooth plaque correlating to heart disease. Does that mean if you have plaque on your teeth you have heart disease? I would probably guess not...more likely there is an cause of the plaque which has a correlation between the two outcomes.
That would be a logical model to explain the correlation, but you also need to be careful not to rule out other models without evidence. Like the possibility that there is some unknown factor that would make someone susceptible to both tooth plaque and heart disease, which would rule out plaque as causative. Without data for one or the other, you can't assume one over the other.
 
I've never had a cigarette between my lips, and I love hoppy beers. love love love. :)
 
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