"Beer Geeks" who don't brew

[the_trout]

I like the beer geeks that say all lagers taste like bud light. Or all lagers are crap OR they're more hardcore into beer mastery that they only drink IIPA's and that only TRUE beer drinkers drink only IPA and IIPA (said by a friend of mine)

It could not agree with this sentiment any more whole heartedly. My go to drinking buddy is "that guy". I seriously want to punch him in the face sometimes.

 

[TheSmithsEra]

It could not agree with this sentiment any more whole heartedly. My go to drinking buddy is "that guy". I seriously want to punch him in the face sometimes.

LOL last time I was talking to the same friend about Saison he said that Saisons are great because the style demands high abv. I said that I could see where he would think that since American saison tend to be made at higher abv... and he said uh I think saison is from europe

lol

 

[fuzzy2133]

You all still go on Beer Advocate? I stopped using that site because of some of the reviews; do we really need to know where you were and how much the pint was...

Not all beer geeks are bad just the ones that like to talk about the beer with out being asked.

 

[pkrath84]

It could not agree with this sentiment any more whole heartedly. My go to drinking buddy is "that guy". I seriously want to punch him in the face sometimes.

What would your friend think of my TRIPLE IPA!? haha (sorry I had to)

I'm the same way, albeit I tend to keep the dialogue in my head unless someone asks me explicitly (like my friends who sample my homebrew). I can't stand it either, but I cut them slack because I'm trying to work on my patience, lol :cross:

 

[beersk]

You all still go on Beer Advocate? I stopped using that site because of some of the reviews; do we really need to know where you were and how much the pint was...

Not all beer geeks are bad just the ones that like to talk about the beer with out being asked.

No, I quit going there after they got the new website a year or so ago. Tired of all the hype about beers, people talking about WHALES, and all the ridiculous reviews and tickers. Seriously people...I guess they have to nerd out about something, beer isn't a bad thing...

 

[unionrdr]

I was pretty much like them before I started brewing. I made wine in my youth,& beer was for those times with my friends,bbq & wine for being with my girlfriend/wife or dinner. And like them I didn't like dark beer too much,save for the occasional guiness. I knew they weren't much on ABV,however. It was that burnt roasty french roast coffee made into beer sort of flavor that was the "strong" bit to me/us. When imports & some crafts started showing up on tap,we'd try them here & there. And IPA's?...What in the blue F did they do to this poor beer?!@#^%&*!@# Yuk. Tastes like cat a$$!
Then I got my Microbrew kit. All those notions slowly started going out the window as greater understanding of these particular muses came upon me. New gadgets coming in with them as more $$ started flying out that self same window with said notions. The muses moved into my head & refuse to leave. But I like it,I like iiiit!

 

[Cromwell]

Well, I was never that guy. I didn't know squat about beer, and happily admitted it before I started brewing. I didn't even drink beer except to be social, since the best beer I knew was Michelob or Heineken. Honestly, if I had to limit myself to BMC beer, I'd quit drinking beer again. I brewed a batch because I could, and I love learning new stuff. The same reason as I made a batch of soap after reading Yooper's post about that. It turned out ok, but I wanted to learn more so I made a couple more batches, and started sampling different styles of commercial beers, and found out I actually like some beers a lot.

Now I'm not a know it all, but I'm a know a little. I mostly keep my mouth shut about it unless someone asks. If someone else wants to spout off about how much they know, I always listen. You can't learn anything without listening, and some of them will actually know more than you. All of them know something you don't, even if it's just what they like.

 

[Mozart]

I say drink what you like, and let others do the same.

If someone really likes Bud Light, I say, enjoy!

If someone wants to extol the virtues of a variety of craft beers, but isn't a fellow brewer, hey, enjoy!

My wife thinks my palette is wholly unsophisticated because I actually like the taste of a McDonald's hamburger... gasp! Of course true hamburger aficionados who spend time perfecting the exact proper blend of seasoning and grilling temperature and time on their outdoor grill or barbecue must think I am simply uneducated and like the taste of McDonald's hamburgers out of sheer and utter ignorance.

I say drink what you like, even if it's (gasp!) Bud Light. It's all beer, and beer was meant to be enjoyed.

 

[nukebrewer]

I'm more talking about the uber beer geeks who treat drinking beer like collecting comic books. Hounding shops for special releases, traveling all over the country to go to breweries, and dropping hundreds or thousands of dollars a year shipping trades.

What does that have to do with brewing? The way I see it, a beer geek is a beer geek, brewer or not.

 

[TheSmithsEra]

What about brewers that focus more on their label then their beer ahahahahahahaha

 

[biochemedic]

Sorry if off topic, but speaking of his geekiness... there's a pretty funny clip at the bottom of this article. Now tell me that wasn't a beer geek all homebrewers could appreciate.

Awesome clip!

 

[Ivypunx]

I feel the same way about some one who doesnt brew talking about beer as I do about someone talking about music who dosnt play. Everyone talks, it doesnt mean thy know what they are talking about. I like IPA's so I brew a lot of IPA's. I like punk so I play a lot of punk. I wonder if some one that makes movies gets mad when they hear people talk about movies

 

[brewguyver]

After all the commercial craft beer market has never been better. Pretty much any type of beer you want I could buy cheaper than I can make it and have it cold and ready to drink in an hour.

Some of that beer gets a little pricy when you add in a plane ticket, hotel room, and rental car. The wider distribution stuff like stone, dfh, etc. is readily available, but the obscure (PTY, heady topper, kern river citra, British milds that don't travel) are easier to try and clone than to get access to. Then again I'm in Pittsburgh, so I'm not in striking distance of a lot of these beers.

I try not to be "that guy," and know-it-alls tend to annoy me a bit. Then again, as long as they don't talk down on anyone, I don't mind. If they're cool, I'm all ears.

 

[chickypad]

I feel the same way about some one who doesnt brew talking about beer as I do about someone talking about music who dosnt play. Everyone talks, it doesnt mean thy know what they are talking about. I like IPA's so I brew a lot of IPA's. I like punk so I play a lot of punk. I wonder if some one that makes movies gets mad when they hear people talk about movies

So you don't want anyone to comment on your beers or your music unless they are a brewer or play punk. Do I take it to mean you don't ever discuss or give opinions on movies? Or for that matter the food at a restaurant, or a piece of art, an article of clothing? Granted lots of people are truly clueless, and the obnoxious ones can be irritating. But isn't the opposite extreme - that no one should discuss anything unless they are in the "business" - equally ridiculous?

 

[nukebrewer]

I feel the same way about some one who doesnt brew talking about beer as I do about someone talking about music who dosnt play. Everyone talks, it doesnt mean thy know what they are talking about. I like IPA's so I brew a lot of IPA's. I like punk so I play a lot of punk. I wonder if some one that makes movies gets mad when they hear people talk about movies

In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.

The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.

*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.

 

[LandoLincoln]

I don't understand them...

Otherwise known as "lazy people."

 

[nukebrewer]

Otherwise known as "lazy people."

Holy ****! You guys are going to make my brain explode from its inability to comprehend the level elitist, snobbish, dickheadery going on in this thread. Since when do you have to be a brewer to enjoy beer? Seriously, chill the fook out.

 

[LandoLincoln]

Holy ****! You guys are going to make my brain explode from its inability to comprehend the level elitist, snobbish, dickheadery going on in this thread. Since when do you have to be a brewer to enjoy beer? Seriously, chill the fook out.

Dude, I'm just getting warmed up. You might want to leave.

 

[Ivypunx]

In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.

The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.

*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.

Very true. But your average brewer is going to understand the beer way more than just your average craft beer nerd. Because I can eat food does not mean I understand the process of making gourmet. I think your mistaking that I might not value a uninformed opinion means I dont like a person. Your strangely hostile over a opinion, which you compared to racism.

 

[LandoLincoln]

In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.

The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.

*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.

No, brewing beer does not grace you with knowledge of what a great beer is supposed to taste like.

Sure, there are a lot of highly skilled beer tasters / beer geeks that are really good at critiquing beers that have never brewed a batch.

But this website is dedicated to those who take the plunge and make beer of their own. Nearly everybody on this website believes that it's pretty easy to make beer. We have a mission to get as many people to start brewing beer of their own. Beer geeks that don't want to start brewing their own just aren't as highly rated as guys that do brew their own, even if their palates are more refined than the homebrewers.

Beer snobs that don't brew have their own website. It's called "beeradvocate."

I don't know if there's a website dedicated to beer geeks that don't brew. But this one isn't it.

 

[Phunhog]

The point is that how hard is it to be a "beer geek" if you don't brew? You basically sit around drink and read about beer. Yes you can be super knowledgeable.. to a degree. The same can be said about any subject. However it changes when you choose to be a PARTICIPANT. Your knowledge level increases because of your experiences. It is impossible for you to gain that knowledge WITHOUT those experiences.

In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.

The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.

*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.

 

[chickypad]

I think your mistaking that I might not value a uninformed opinion means I dont like a person.

I think you're mistaking that non-brewer equals uninformed.

 

[chuckrock]

Wow, you all would hate someone like me then. I dont brew, but i certainly consider myself to be a beer snob. I try any beer i can. I travel to breweries sometimes. i trade for beer. I have a mug at my local brewpub. I talk about beer. I read up about breweries and am pretty certain that my taste buds are just as defined as anyone who posted on this thread.

And you know what, i cant think of one reason why brewing beer would be more impressive than drinking a beer. It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter. Unless you brewed that anarchy ale i was drinking or were a part of the alllagash team that brewed this black i just finished....then you know nothing more than i can know.

 

[Ivypunx]

Wow, you all would hate someone like me then. I dont brew, but i certainly consider myself to be a beer snob. I try any beer i can. I travel to breweries sometimes. i trade for beer. I have a mug at my local brewpub. I talk about beer. I read up about breweries and am pretty certain that my taste buds are just as defined as anyone who posted on this thread.

And you know what, i cant think of one reason why brewing beer would be more impressive than drinking a beer. It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter. Unless you brewed that anarchy ale i was drinking or were a part of the alllagash team that brewed this black i just finished....then you know nothing more than i can know.

Why are you on a home brewers forum?

 

[chuckrock]

Why are you on a home brewers forum?

I am a member of the sister site/forum, beerforum. Someone mentioned the thread and i decided to read it.

 

[the_trout]

I am a member of the sister site/forum, beerforum. Someone mentioned the thread and i decided to read it.

Welcome aboard Chuck. Since you are obviously a beer enthusiast, might I suggest you try your hand at crafting your own. It's not hard and you can get into the hobby really inexpensively. You might be surprised how good your beer can be. With solid technique and quality ingredients you can make beer as good as anything you can buy and you will gain added enjoyment knowing that it's yours. Best of all you've already discovered HBT. There is no question the collective membership here cannot advise you on.

 

[Ivypunx]

Welcome aboard Chuck. Since you are obviously a beer enthusiast, might I suggest you try your hand at crafting your own. It's not hard and you can get into the hobby really inexpensively. You might be surprised how good your beer can be. With solid technique and quality ingredients you can make beer as good as anything you can buy and you will gain added enjoyment knowing that it's yours. Best of all you've already discovered HBT. There is no question the collective membership here cannot advise you on.

cheers

 

[Fuzzymittenbrewing]

I definately don't think being a brewer makes you all knowing or whatever. But it definately gives you a way better understanding of ingredients and how each one including yeast contributes to a beer.

 

[Phunhog]

We don't hate anyone...or at least I don't. My point is that we gain knowledge through direct experiences. How much knowledge are you going to gain if you don't have those experiences? You remind me of the baseball fan who has never played an inning.....ever. Your knowledge is limited because you only know baseball from a fan perspective. Just like ultimately your beer experiences will be limited because you have never experienced them from a brewer's perspective.

Wow, you all would hate someone like me then. I dont brew, but i certainly consider myself to be a beer snob. I try any beer i can. I travel to breweries sometimes. i trade for beer. I have a mug at my local brewpub. I talk about beer. I read up about breweries and am pretty certain that my taste buds are just as defined as anyone who posted on this thread.

And you know what, i cant think of one reason why brewing beer would be more impressive than drinking a beer. It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter. Unless you brewed that anarchy ale i was drinking or were a part of the alllagash team that brewed this black i just finished....then you know nothing more than i can know.

 

[dgr]

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