Sorry if off topic, but speaking of his geekiness... there's a pretty funny clip at the bottom of this article. Now tell me that wasn't a beer geek all homebrewers could appreciate.
Awesome clip!
Sorry if off topic, but speaking of his geekiness... there's a pretty funny clip at the bottom of this article. Now tell me that wasn't a beer geek all homebrewers could appreciate.
the_trout said:After all the commercial craft beer market has never been better. Pretty much any type of beer you want I could buy cheaper than I can make it and have it cold and ready to drink in an hour.
I feel the same way about some one who doesnt brew talking about beer as I do about someone talking about music who dosnt play. Everyone talks, it doesnt mean thy know what they are talking about. I like IPA's so I brew a lot of IPA's. I like punk so I play a lot of punk. I wonder if some one that makes movies gets mad when they hear people talk about movies
I feel the same way about some one who doesnt brew talking about beer as I do about someone talking about music who dosnt play. Everyone talks, it doesnt mean thy know what they are talking about. I like IPA's so I brew a lot of IPA's. I like punk so I play a lot of punk. I wonder if some one that makes movies gets mad when they hear people talk about movies
I don't understand them...
Otherwise known as "lazy people."
Holy ****! You guys are going to make my brain explode from its inability to comprehend the level elitist, snobbish, dickheadery going on in this thread. Since when do you have to be a brewer to enjoy beer? Seriously, chill the fook out.
In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.
The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.
*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.
In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.
The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.
*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.
In all fairness, becoming a brewer doesn't automatically grace you with omniscient knowledge of beer. In fact, I'd say most people who brew learned to taste beer before they learned to brew, otherwise why start brewing in the first place? I know a ton of non-brewers who know their way around beer and its descriptors. People that are way better at tasting beer than you or I likely ever will be.
The problem is that we've attached this stereotype to non-brewers that says they don't know anything about beer. Is it a true stereotype? Maybe. But if you're the non-brewer who knows how to talk about beer, how would you feel if a brewer treated you like an idiot just because you're a non-brewer? That's on the same level as racism as far as how much sense it makes.* Beer is one of those things you don't have to make to understand, so you need to get off you frickin' high horse.
*I think racism and racists are fooking retarded.
I think your mistaking that I might not value a uninformed opinion means I dont like a person.
Wow, you all would hate someone like me then. I dont brew, but i certainly consider myself to be a beer snob. I try any beer i can. I travel to breweries sometimes. i trade for beer. I have a mug at my local brewpub. I talk about beer. I read up about breweries and am pretty certain that my taste buds are just as defined as anyone who posted on this thread.
And you know what, i cant think of one reason why brewing beer would be more impressive than drinking a beer. It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter. Unless you brewed that anarchy ale i was drinking or were a part of the alllagash team that brewed this black i just finished....then you know nothing more than i can know.
Why are you on a home brewers forum?
I am a member of the sister site/forum, beerforum. Someone mentioned the thread and i decided to read it.
Welcome aboard Chuck. Since you are obviously a beer enthusiast, might I suggest you try your hand at crafting your own. It's not hard and you can get into the hobby really inexpensively. You might be surprised how good your beer can be. With solid technique and quality ingredients you can make beer as good as anything you can buy and you will gain added enjoyment knowing that it's yours. Best of all you've already discovered HBT. There is no question the collective membership here cannot advise you on.
Wow, you all would hate someone like me then. I dont brew, but i certainly consider myself to be a beer snob. I try any beer i can. I travel to breweries sometimes. i trade for beer. I have a mug at my local brewpub. I talk about beer. I read up about breweries and am pretty certain that my taste buds are just as defined as anyone who posted on this thread.
And you know what, i cant think of one reason why brewing beer would be more impressive than drinking a beer. It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter. Unless you brewed that anarchy ale i was drinking or were a part of the alllagash team that brewed this black i just finished....then you know nothing more than i can know.
dgr said:6 pages and no one posted this?
Video Link: http://vimeo.com/64558227
The point is that how hard is it to be a "beer geek" if you don't brew? You basically sit around drink and read about beer. Yes you can be super knowledgeable.. to a degree. The same can be said about any subject. However it changes when you choose to be a PARTICIPANT. Your knowledge level increases because of your experiences. It is impossible for you to gain that knowledge WITHOUT those experiences.
Welcome aboard Chuck. Since you are obviously a beer enthusiast, might I suggest you try your hand at crafting your own. It's not hard and you can get into the hobby really inexpensively. You might be surprised how good your beer can be. With solid technique and quality ingredients you can make beer as good as anything you can buy and you will gain added enjoyment knowing that it's yours. Best of all you've already discovered HBT. There is no question the collective membership here cannot advise you on.
Thank you for the welcome. I may or may not brew someday. I know I don't have the room to do so where I live at the moment. My apartment is too small. Luckily we have a new house coming in a few months.
It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter.
Very true. But your average brewer is going to understand the beer way more than just your average craft beer nerd. Because I can eat food does not mean I understand the process of making gourmet. I think your mistaking that I might not value a uninformed opinion means I dont like a person. Your strangely hostile over a opinion, which you compared to racism.
But this website is dedicated to those who take the plunge and make beer of their own. Nearly everybody on this website believes that it's pretty easy to make beer. We have a mission to get as many people to start brewing beer of their own.
Beer geeks that don't want to start brewing their own just aren't as highly rated as guys that do brew their own, even if their palates are more refined than the homebrewers.
Why?
Landolincoln said:I'd explain how wrong you are, but you wouldn't understand it.
Because we're homebrewers, which make us better than them. Duh. Are you really a homebrewer? I think you're going to have to supply us with some credentials.
This crowd is certainly more hostile than the beerforum crowd, where we welcome everyone without trying to insult them or make digs at them.
The elitist attitude always baffles me. Making beer is really easy. Its a 4 ingredient soup that you dump yeast in. Seriously, making toll house cookies is more difficult. The hardest part of home brewing is having patience. Sometime I feel like we need to get over ourselves.
This will certainly endear you to all of us. Seems to me you came over here looking for conflict.This crowd is certainly more hostile than the beerforum crowd, where we welcome everyone without trying to insult them or make digs at them.
The elitist attitude always baffles me. Making beer is really easy. Its a 4 ingredient soup that you dump yeast in. Seriously, making toll house cookies is more difficult. The hardest part of home brewing is having patience. Sometime I feel like we need to get over ourselves.
The elitist attitude always baffles me. Making beer is really easy. Its a 4 ingredient soup that you dump yeast in. Seriously, making toll house cookies is more difficult. The hardest part of home brewing is having patience. Sometime I feel like we need to get over ourselves.
No one said making beer is hard. Making Very good beer is a practiced skill. But making beer is not hard. People are saying that brewing beer gives you a better perspective on beer than some one who is just a craft beer geek will have. Its not saying that some one cant have a outstanding and trained pallet and be able to detect all kinds of subtle tastes in beer. However, after brewing you get a more trained and experienced opinion as to what adding different hops in different times and amounts can do. How different grains affect the beer in different ways. Brewing beer is the same with all the many metaphors people have posted on this thread. Insider information always gives you a better perspective.
I don't understand them...
And you know what, i cant think of one reason why brewing beer would be more impressive than drinking a beer. It is a nice hobby for some, enjoy jt....but it doesnt make you special or smarter. Unless you brewed that anarchy ale i was drinking or were a part of the alllagash team that brewed this black i just finished....then you know nothing more than i can know.
I think before you start insulting someone's intelligence and ability to comprehend things you should know who you are talking to. Otherwise you are just showing yourself to be a buffoon. I'd take a guess that I am one of the most educated commentors on this thread and certainly have the ability to understand any "theory" you might present. I don't say that to be arrogant or insulting to the other posters, but just as a fact of life.
This crowd is certainly more hostile than the beerforum crowd, where we welcome everyone without trying to insult them or make digs at them.
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