American Porter Bee Cave Brewery Robust Porter

[EdWort]

What are you going to use for a mash tun and what is your sparge method?

 

[humann_brewing]

What are you going to use for a mash tun and what is your sparge method?

Here is the equipment that I will have to do so:

* 30 qt turkey fryer and gas burner
* 10 gallon rubbermaid mash tun converted over with flyguys help (Cheap & Easy 10 Gallon Rubbermaid MLT Conversion)
* Stainless steel false bottom (plastic tubing to go to spigot)
* copper wort chiller, the pool will also be cold which I dip into and have found that works really well too.
* 6.5 gallon glass carboy
* bucket with spigot
* hydrometer/thermometer
* stiring sticks
* PH 5.2
* cleaning solutions
* airlock
* little stuff I can't think of

I plan on Batch Sparging.

Beersmith says to mash in with 17.38 qt of water and sparge with 7 qt at 75% effeciency. I don't know if that means with each batch or what.

Also, what Mash profile should I be using for Batch sparging.

EDIT:

Just did some more math and if I initially mash with 17 qts of water or just over 4.25 gallons of water. That is 3.18 gallons into the pot at the first draining with 75% efficiency. I then need 4.3 gallons more.

Seems like doing 2 sparges to yield 2.15 each or 2.86 gallons of hot water in each batch. This should get me close to the 7.5 gallons to boil.

 

[EdWort]

You are on the right track. RDWHAHB.

You'll do fine. Just watch your temps. Use this site to help with your strike temp.

Green Bay Rackers--Mash Calculators

 

[Soulive]

Ed, you said this beer is chewy but you're mashing at 150F and using Notty. How are you getting that kind of mouthfeel?

 

[EdWort]

Ed, you said this beer is chewy but you're mashing at 150F and using Notty. How are you getting that kind of mouthfeel?

That's where the 8 oz. of Malto Dextrin comes in.

 

[Soulive]

That's where the 8 oz. of Malto Dextrin comes in.

Ah! I completely missed that ingredient...

 

[humann_brewing]

You are on the right track. RDWHAHB.

You'll do fine. Just watch your temps. Use this site to help with your strike temp.

Green Bay Rackers--Mash Calculators

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but it's hard to relax and have a home brew when my keg is empty

But in all seriousness, thanks for you help Ed, I hope to do just fine with your help.

 

[Soulive]

Ed, I am thinking about brewing this one. My main goal is to achieve an aroma of roast and cocoa. Would you keep the same proportions to get that result?

 

[EdWort]

I get both with this recipe.

 

[Soulive]

I get both with this recipe.

Good deal, thanks...

 

[humann_brewing]

Well, I just called the LHBS and they don't have any of Black Barley or Flake Barley that this recipe calls for.

What do you think I can substitute? He mentioned oatmeal for the Flaked Barley, but I am not interested in anything like an oatmeal stout, I am wondering if only 1/2 pound will effect it that much.

I liked this recipe because of the cocoa and roast tastes as Soulive said.

With that in mind, what can I use to replace these ingredients that contribute to these tastes?

Need to replace

1oz of black roasted barley
8oz of flaked barley

P.S. ordering online isn't much of an option as I plan to brew tomorrow.

Thanks again.

 

[humann_brewing]

Well I made it without to much fuss. just pitched the yeast. It is warm here today 88 degrees. I have to put a wet shirt on it to get the temp down. It is at 77 degrees , but is in a room that is 67 degrees, so hopefully it will go down a bit more.

The exciting thing is that my OG was 1.078 I got my 7.5 boil wort from 8.8 gallons of water or 85% efficiency

 

[chefchris]

Holy **** ... this stuff is good. Popped my first bottle open last night after only a week and a half in the bottle. Best beer I've made so far no doubt.

Thanks for the awesome recipe! This is definately gonna be brewed more than a few times.

 

[EdWort]

Congrats. I'm glad you like it. Now we need pics!

 

[chefchris]

Congrats. I'm glad you like it. Now we need pics!

 

[EdWort]

Looking good!

 

[jimba009]

can i use carapils instead of the malto in the same ratio?

 

[humann_brewing]

Oh man, I can't wait for mine. I wish there was a way to fall asleep for 3 weeks. That might just cause other problems though.

 

[EdWort]

can i use carapils instead of the malto in the same ratio?

Malto Dextrin adds mouth feel without adding any other flavor or character to the beer. Carapils may add some caramel or toffee aromas to the beer that are not present in the current recipe.

 

[Steiner]

Hate to be a drag on this thread, but any chance at getting an extract conversion of this? I've been wanting to I move up to PM, and it's about time too, so that could work as well. Thanks. This looks great, just what I'm looking for.

 

[EdWort]

Hate to be a drag on this thread, but any chance at getting an extract conversion of this? I've been wanting to I move up to PM, and it's about time too, so that could work as well. Thanks. This looks great, just what I'm looking for.

Sure. Get about 9 lbs. of Extra Pale LME and steep the rest of the grains at 155 degrees for about 15 minutes in about 2 gallons of water. Top off to 7 gallons with RO water and add the LME and bring to a boil. Add the Maltro Dextrin in the last 15 minutes of the boil. Hop additions stay the same.

 

[chefchris]

Thinking about doing a 10 gallon batch of this wonderful beer. Tell me if this looks right. For now I just doubled everything. Didn't know if I should double the Malto-Dextrine or not.

22.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 79.65 %
2.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7.24 %
2.00 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 7.24 %
1.00 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 3.62 %
0.50 lb Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 1.81 %
0.12 lb Black Barley (Stout) (500.0 SRM) Grain 0.43 %

2.00 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 26.6 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (60 min) Hops 17.2 IBU

1.00 lb Malto-Dextrine (Boil 20.0 min) Misc

1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale (each 5 gallon fermentor)

According to beersmith the beer profile matches the 5 gallon batch except the bitterness is off by .1 IBU.

This would be my first 10 gallon batch so I just wanted to make sure I don't screw up 10 gallons of it.

Thanks.

 

[EdWort]

Yep, just double everything. You are good to go.

 

[Steiner]

Thanks a lot Ed. I'll do my best to represent your work well here out West.

 

[humann_brewing]

I transferred this to a keg last night to make room in the primary. It was in the primary for 23 days and had a gravity of 1.021. It started out at 1.078, but shouldn't my final gravity be a little lower? Beersmith has it at 1.018.

I just closed up the keg and put it in the back room with the fermentors hoping that it will attenuate a little more. Should I put in a little more nottingham or anything else?

As a side note, I put some in a growler with some coffee ground to experiment and it is creating carbonation there, but the keg is not, I pull on the release valve and get nothing. There is a little more than normal head room in the keg so I may just need to let it be to build up some pressure if the keg is totally sealed for sure.

 

[Orangevango]

I was unable to get northern brewer hops localy so I had to substitute them. I got an ounce of chinook instead, and, since they are higher AA, I decided to omit the cascade. Will that be a problem?

 

[humann_brewing]

It has been 31 days since I brewed this beer. I am going to put the gas on it tonight and see how it goes. Can't wait to try it out.

 

[xumbi]

Here's my slight variation that I brewed last saturday:

10# 2 Row
1# Chocolate Malt
1# Crystal 40
1# Flaked Barley
4 oz. Black Patent

8 oz. malto dextrin @ 20
1 oz galena @ 60

Windsor yeast

Mashed at 151F
OG = 1.066

I also added about a half pound of light DME I had lying around when I added the malto dextrin.

I just took a reading and it's at 1.030, and here hasn't been any activity since Monday.

Any suggestions? I've read that windsor can be a very low attenuating strain, and that some people will pitch a different yeast after a week to finish it off.

Thanks for another great recipe Ed!

 

[BeerPressure]

Brewing this puppy tomorrow, subbing perle for northern brewer.

 

[BeerPressure]

Ed what happened to the rest of that recipe? I remember you having yeast instructions and estimated OG and FG?