American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[philrose]

Bittering without alpha ratings for hops is unpredictable, especially on the typically high alpha varieties like magnum.

You can give it a go, but you can't really guess at the results. Might be a sweet, unbalanced beer or a puckeringly bitter beer. This recipe is fairly light on the hop budget, seems rational to me to pick up some other hop for bittering.

If you're looking for a good use for those magnums, IIRC Sierra Nevada mixes them with citras as a dry hop for their torpedo ipa. This is less dependent on the alpha acid ratings that homegrown hops lack.

But hey, for all I know, you could have dialed into those hops with some method I don't even know about or sent them for testing or something. So I might just be an ass.

 

[Accidic]

Your not an ass. I didn't need a huge amount and going to the lhbs wasn't an option (limited transportation). However, I only needed a little boost so I went with 7g. I figure if the aa is as low as 10% i'm within an ibu of target and if 15% i'm only over by a couple at worst.

On the other hand I overboiled by about half a gallon so it's going to be a bit stronger anyway (1.063 unadjusted).

 

[philrose]

I bet it'll be beer one way or another

 

[MirImage]

Is an 8 gallon pot large enough to do BIAB for this recipe? This would be my 1st BIAB.

 

[paraordnance]

Is an 8 gallon pot large enough to do BIAB for this recipe? This would be my 1st BIAB.

You can do it if you carefull and not doing full volume. You can always add water to fermenter as well

 

[MirImage]

You can do it if you carefull and not doing full volume. You can always add water to fermenter as well

Is there an easy way to calculate how much of what I would need (grain bill/water).

 

[tennesseean_87]

If you have another pot or some extra buckets, you could easily do a BIAB mash. Dough in at 1.25 qts/lb in a 5 gallon bakery bucket (after washing) with bag, then dunk in your kettle for a sparge, then add the mash water back in. do as much as you can fit in your kettle without boilover/not boiling off enough.

 

[paraordnance]

Is there an easy way to calculate how much of what I would need (grain bill/water).

I dialed my numbers pretty good by now after BIAB for 2 years. But everyones set up is different. I mash in 6 gal of water and then sparge or dunk-sparge in 2 gal (i get better efficency this way compare to traditional full volume BIAB). This leaves me with 5.5 gal post boil on average 10-12 lbs grain bill. For high gravity brews or 90 min boils I just sparge more, like 2.5-3 gal. Works great! You can mash thicker, start with 5 gal if you have 8 gal pot and then dunk sparge or sparge in to separate vessel

 

[FlyDoctor]

This is a good one to start with.

http://www.simplebiabcalculator.com/

 

[newtobrew5]

I used to have the same questions since I have an 8 g pot and do BIAB. I've done about 10 batches and have it down pretty well. I'm not too anal about volumes and my gravities aren't 100% spot on as a result, but I'm sure you could get them there. I basically heat about 6 to 6.5 g of water to my strike temp. I then take my pot and put in a plastc keg tub lined with towels, add my bag and grain, and let sit 60-90 minutes (temp drops a degree or two max). Towards the end, I heat about 2 g of water to about 180 in another pot. When the 60-90 min mash is done, I take the grain bag and put it in my bottling bucket and poor the 2g of heated water over it, stir it up and put a cover on it for 10 min. Meahwhile, I've put my kettle back on the burner and start heating it up. Once I add the 2 g of [sparge/mashout][don't know what we're calling this], I have about 7 g of wort. Be careful not to boil over because you're near the top at this point. I haven't entered any competitions, but the repeat visitors to the house prove it can't be that bad. Also did a triangle test with my dad and bro on a Chimay blue clone and they couldn't pick it out, so you can definitely do high gravity beers (just might be a little less than 5g). Good luck.

 

[MirImage]

Thank you very much folks, I really appreciate it! I brewed this as a PM a few years ago, I can't wait to do it again.

 

[Accidic]

Mine's bubbling away but very very slowly but pretty steadily. Since I'm using a waterbath (with a shirt cover) and stocking it with frozen water bottles (Two 2l twice a day) maybe it's just colder than I think. I suppose that's life sense of irony. The one I didn't think would need a blowoff made a mess, the one I expected would need it (and used one for) is being incredibly civilized.

 

[erschwenk]

This AG will be my first attempt at making beer. The Cascade Hops I picked up at the LHBS were 9.1 instead of 6.6... Do I just decrease by roughly a third. Thanks for the help.

 

[makomachine]

Yes, decrease proportionally on your bittering addition to insure appropriate IBU's

 

[MirImage]

So instead of doing a BIAB I bit the bullet and finished my mash tun project. Plan on doing this Monday.

 

[MirImage]

So I got all he ingredients for AG except they LHBS didn't have veinna they suggested light Munich. Otherwise its spot on. I made a PM of this a few years ago and remember really like it. I am quite excited.

 

[erschwenk]

Yes, decrease proportionally on your bittering addition to insure appropriate IBU's

Thanks for the help. I decreased my hop additions like you suggested. All went well till my hop bag opened and they were all loose in the boil. Kept clogging my kettle drain and I had to keep sticking a wire in the valve to keep it flowing to my fermentor.

 

[makomachine]

Thanks for the help. I decreased my hop additions like you suggested. All went well till my hop bag opened and they were all loose in the boil. Kept clogging my kettle drain and I had to keep sticking a wire in the valve to keep it flowing to my fermentor.

It will still be beer - some of my best brews had non-catastrophic problems - no worries!

 

[scottvin]

brewed this today according to the recipe.. can't wait to try it!

 

[grasshopperfirestarter]

Just finished bottling this. Drank about 36 ounces flat and warm. Loved it!

 

[scottvin]

last night it was still fermenting pretty strong since I pitched on sunday

 

[dford]

This is on the menu for a weekend brew day. Wish I would have made it earlier because it sounds to be a good warm weather drinking brew.

 

[Aspenextreme]

I brewed up 5 gallons of this and I have to say it is a great beer. It is carbing up in the keg as I am typing this and will definitely do this again.

 

[TrubDog]

I did this by the book a few months ago and it was wonderful. This time I upped the grain bill proportionally to 12 lbs and ended up with a 1.065 OG. I didn't have enough Cascade so I used Northern Brewer for bittering and an ounce of Cascade at flameout. Anxious to try this modified version!

 

[MirImage]

Brewing this up right now. 1st AG. Had to use Munich over Vienna because the HB store didn't have any Vienna.

 

[Helly]

Did a partial mash version of this yesterday. Pretty excited abut it and I'll be doing it AG next time. Thanks for sharing the recipe.

 

[cliftonj]

Just moved. Wanted to get some beer in a primary to kick things off so while I set up the garage I brewed a batch tonight.

 

[MirImage]

Brewed this Monday with saf 05. High Krausen was on Tuesday and by yesterday it started clearing. I washed the 05 from a different batch and made a starter but holy crap its working fast!

 

[makomachine]

Making a second hybrid batch of this given I really loved this beer. It's going to be this grain bill, while toasting a pound of the 2-row (Lake Walk inspired) and will be hopped to the same IBU's with Simcoe and Amarillo. Should be a crisp, easy drinking APA!

 

[brian74]

Did a partial mash version of this yesterday. Pretty excited abut it and I'll be doing it AG next time. Thanks for sharing the recipe.

Just curious, did you follow the partial mash instructions for this recipe or did you make adjustments? This will probably be my next batch.