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My first AG batch ... not that difficult... 1044 OG, so I am pretty close..

Healthy amt of fermentation in 14 hours... steady for 24-36 hours... now settling down.

Thank You for making this so simple !
 
Question for Ed:

I made a Magic Hat clone that sucked (due to my bad city water). I was thinking of remaking the recipe, but I've wanted to make this one as well. I'm wondering what a few oz of apricot extract would add to your brew to get it close to a magic hat style apricot ale?
 
this is going to be my first AG.. so let me ask a newbie questions about the process.. with the second sparge, how long do you let it mash?
 
jezter6 said:
Question for Ed:

I made a Magic Hat clone that sucked (due to my bad city water). I was thinking of remaking the recipe, but I've wanted to make this one as well. I'm wondering what a few oz of apricot extract would add to your brew to get it close to a magic hat style apricot ale?

Good question, but I have no idea. I'm a Reinheistgebote brewer. Nothing but Malt, Hops, Water, & Yeast in my brews.

If I were doing it, I would add the extract in my bottling bucket or keg rather than let it ferment with the beer.

Good luck!
 
aekdbbop said:
this is going to be my first AG.. so let me ask a newbie questions about the process.. with the second sparge, how long do you let it mash?

When I batch sparge, I add my hot water, stir well, let sit 10 minutes, then stir well again and begin vorlauf.
 
I think so. It allows the water to get the sugars in solution. No enzymatic activity takes place at this time. You just want to rinse the sugars from the grain.
 
Hey Edwort. I just tested a few bottles of your pale ale recipe. I have to say it tastes pretty damn good only a week in the bottle. Yours looks a little darker than what I made, but I think its gonna turn out pretty freakin good. Thanks for sharing that recipe.
 
I just brewed my second 5 gallons ..

Racked the 1st 5 gal to secondary, then added the new batch right on top of the Nottinham yeast cake.

I had a STORM of activity in 3 HOURS!!

I have never seen anything so fast in the primary....

Is there a possibility of too fast a fermentation ??? The temp was abt 78 ..

I am sure this will turn out very well !
 
Count me in for 5.5 gallons of the Haus Pale Ale. I brewed it last night and it's fermenting like crazy right now. A bit on the high side at 1.053, but I really look forward to it when it's all done.

I find that it's fun to make complex beers with decoction's, step mashes and specific ingredients based on the history of the style, but this was a breath of fresh air with not much thinking involved brewing. Thanks.
 
kappclark said:
I just brewed my second 5 gallons ..

Racked the 1st 5 gal to secondary, then added the new batch right on top of the Nottinham yeast cake.

I had a STORM of activity in 3 HOURS!!

I have never seen anything so fast in the primary....

Is there a possibility of too fast a fermentation ??? The temp was abt 78 ..

I am sure this will turn out very well !

Two things. First, pitching onto the entire yeast cake is "overpitching" in that the yeast bypass the growth phase which emparts certain flavor characteristics. Next, 78 is too hot so it might be a bit hot in fusels (jet fuel flavor). It's probably not going to be a bad batch by any means but it could have been better.
 
Yea - 78 is above the recommended temp 70-75, but as usual I was getting impatient...

I now have 2 batches of same recipe, so will be interested in how the flavor diff show themselves...

Not a big fan of jet fuel !
 
Well I got into the MLT at 11:00 it's now 11:22. Thanks for the recipe ED. I wanted something basic and tasty this fit the bill nicely.

As I read I feel for you guys who have the lousy LHBS. Mine isn't exactly local (30 miles away), but it is fully stocked and never leaves you wanting. The few times they didn't have exactly what I wanted their knowledgable staff pointed me to the proper alternitive.

Thanks again ED, I need to get back and stir the mash...
 
Okay just went to primary. I stuck to the recipe to see how far I would fall short. I have roughly 4.5 gals at OG 1.041 My efficiency blows!!

I use a barley crusher adjusted to 1:00 o'clock, 10 gal rubbermaid MLT and an 8.5 gal stainless pot. I think the efficiency killer is my water. I hate to lay blame, but it seems as though it is the culprit. My water is alkaline off the normal tester scale! I use 5.2 to bring the ph to 5.2, but that doesn't change the other water issues.

Normaly I add an extra pound or so of base malt to help make up for this but wanted to see where I would fall OG wise on a much used recipe. No problem! It will still be tasty! I, (as with so many others) love cascade hops so this recipe works great for me. I may even dry hop with an OZ of Cascade in the keg to see how it tastes.

Thanks again ED for the recipe. I'm getting pretty tired and maybe a touch inebriated I been drinking Red Hook Long Hammer all night and it's starting to catch up with me. Thanks for the recipe and I plan on looking a bit closer at your others. THANKS!!

From Michigan (the land of the oppressed), goodnight and God Bless. - Robar
 
Robar said:
Okay just went to primary. I stuck to the recipe to see how far I would fall short. I have roughly 4.5 gals at OG 1.041 My efficiency blows!!

How much did you put in the kettle? How long did you boil? Try buying some spring water next time.
 
I followed the recipe even with the mashing 3.5gal, 5qt. 3.25gal Some of my volume loss comes from the hops in the bottom as I don't pour that in. The efficiency is what it is. I am not apposed to buying spring water but it seems like bumping the grain bill 5-10% is cheaper.
 
Robar said:
I followed the recipe even with the mashing 3.5gal, 5qt. 3.25gal Some of my volume loss comes from the hops in the bottom as I don't pour that in. The efficiency is what it is. I am not apposed to buying spring water but it seems like bumping the grain bill 5-10% is cheaper.

I strain mine, so I get all my beer. I work at getting 6.5 gallons of wort and boil it down to 5.5 gallons for my fermentor. That gives me enough for a couple of hydrometer jars and spillage.

I mentioned the water because of your high alkaline level. If your beer turns out good, then never mind. It's amazing how much difference the water can make though.
 
Generally speaking I think my beer turns out pretty good. Using the product Five-Two brings the PH to 5.2 The first few brews I did turned out very bad as I didn't realize my PH was so far out of wack. My water tastes good and my garden grows well so I never gave a thought to the PH of my water. Well I learned about it the hard way as I dumped the first three batches I brewed.

I am thinking about running a side by side test though. One treated tap water and one spring water to see how different it tastes, just so I know. If it isn't very noticable then I'll continue to use my tap water. If it is different then I will have to seriously think about ponying up for the spring water when doing the lite ales. My stouts and ambers taste great I haven't turned out a decent APA or IPA to be able to tell. Though I have a couple fermenting now(Yours and a Stone IPA clone).

Ed you mention straining out the hops. What do you use to strain them out? I have a large funnel that has a fine screen insert, but it plugs up so fast it would take forever to strain the hops out of a gallon of slop.
 
Robar said:
Ed you mention straining out the hops. What do you use to strain them out? I have a large funnel that has a fine screen insert, but it plugs up so fast it would take forever to strain the hops out of a gallon of slop.

This is what I use. Got it at Target. Stainless and it does a great job at aerating the wort when I pour through it.

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If you ferment in Carboys, I would recommend using hop bags. I do now. They work great. They roll with the boil up and back down, and they keep 98% of the hops in them. I get great utilization with them too. No difference so far.
 
Funny!!
I have a simular device and never thought to use it to strain the hops. Thats a sure sign of either; to many toys in the toybox or old age. I vote we go with he toybox theory.

I may also look into a hop bag. Do use one for dry hopping as well?

Thanks again for all the help and info.
 
I dry hop in the keg, so I use a Herb Ball like this.

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Just sanitize it, put your hops in, drop it in the keg. It sinks right to the dip tube.
 
My wife is night manager at a large regional grocer/department store and I am having her look tonight. She says that she knows they sell tea balls that look simular. Maybe the SWMBO can hook me up.

The haus pale I made last night is going pretty slow. I cooled it to 79f then poored it into the bucket through my strainer funnel then pitched the yeast. I would guess the wort was 75-77f by then so tem can't be the problem. It was bubbling a little earlier today but not much tonight I have no kraeusen ring so it can't have been flash fermented. I give it some swirl and then it will bubble for a while then nothing. I shouldn't have to do that at all. The wort was aerated very well as it had close to 3" of foam on top when I pitched the yeast. Any ideas?
 
EdWort said:
RDWHAHB. Patience pays off with Homebrew.

What does RDWHAHB mean? Tried for a while to figure it out, but can't get this one.

After the big swirl I gave it it has been doing a little bit of activity so I am breathing easy again.
 
Robar said:
What does RDWHAHB mean? Tried for a while to figure it out, but can't get this one.

After the big swirl I gave it it has been doing a little bit of activity so I am breathing easy again.
Relax...Don't Worry...Have a Home Brew... ;)
 

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