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I, like many here, will be making this as my first all grain batch and I'm brewing this weekend.

I picked up the ingredients today, and the Cascade hops at AHS have a lower alpha acid rating than the ones in the recipe. Instead of the 6.6% Ed Wort used, these are 5%.

I found a thread about how to adjust the amount of hops needed based on different per cent alphas, and I just want run my numbers by everyone here.

If I'm correct, I need to increase the the hops at the start of the boil from 1 oz to 1.32 oz (6.6/5=1.32). Does this sound right?

I understand how this applies to the bittering hops, but I'm less clear about applying the same correction to all the other hops. Do I need to increase the amount of hops for each addition?

I suspect that I could just use software to get to the correct answer and while I have downloaded Beersmith, I'm still trying to figure it out.

Other than adjusting the amount of hops, I'm doing this recipe as first published.

-peabody304
 
In Beersmith (assuming you have entered your recipe), you can literally just double-click on your hops additions and then change the timing on them. this will automatically calculate the alpha% changes for your batch.

one thing you could try also is to go with a 90 minute boil and move your bittering addition to 90min.
 
My version of this which is almost the same but lower OG so lower ABV (3.1%). It's a tester for a batch for my brother-in-law's wedding who prefers the "light" stuff.

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Looks pretty yummy, a Quaffer Pale ale. I like it! Did you adjust your hops for the lower OG?
 
Looks pretty yummy, a Quaffer Pale ale. I like it! Did you adjust your hops for the lower OG?

Yes. I have it at about 35 IBUs. I have to say that it has serious lager characteristics which is why I am trying another tester with noble hops to see how that goes.
 
So I just drew my last glass of this from the keg.. fortunately, I had a second keg of it ready to go... So I just put it in Ms Keggy and under pressure..

I'm loving this whole pipeline concept.. and the new perlick equipped 3 faucet box is icing on the cake! Big thick sweet ole icing...

:mug:
 
I'm brewing this recipe tomorrow and I've already encountered a little dilemma...
I ordered 2 ounces of cascades but they are only 5.00%AA. When entered into Beer Smith, my IBU's only meet 26. I have an ounce of centennial and I was thinking I could add an ounce at 60 minutes to get me around 40? Good idea?
 
I'm brewing this recipe tomorrow and I've already encountered a little dilemma...
I ordered 2 ounces of cascades but they are only 5.00%AA. When entered into Beer Smith, my IBU's only meet 26. I have an ounce of centennial and I was thinking I could add an ounce at 60 minutes to get me around 40? Good idea?

That should be fine, Its just for bittering anyway.
 
I'm brewing this tomorrow morning as well and just realized the same thing with the hops being at 5%. Someone mentioned a 90min boil. Would that work without changing the total amount of hops? Can't exactly go pick any more than the 2oz I have on hand now.
 
Brewed it yesterday and ended up getting much better than expected efficiency on my partial mash than expected (testing my new 5gal igloo cooler again).

I did a large Partial Mash with 3.5lbs 2-row, 2.25 lbs Vienna, and .5lbs 10L. After mashing I ended up with about 1.047 pre boil gravity for a 4 gallon boil, so I added 2 lbs of DME and after topping off to 5 gallons after the boil I ended up with 1.050. Close enough for me and it was also the best tasting wort I've had, normally I really don't like the unfermented beer all that much.
 
I brewed this yesterday. I changed it just a bit. I subbed out about 1/4 of the Extra Pale LME and replaced it with Pale Ale Malt, and did all vienna as malt not extract. I also added one extra hop addition.

I used dry yeast, Notty. The thing is fermenting like a beast today. It is very happily bubbling away. I am trying to find a good pale ale for the Lady, and this seemed like a good base to start with. Thanks for posting it.
 
Just dropped 11 gallons of this in the fermentor. Used Centennial for the 60 minute bittering, my current stock of Cascade is low at 5% AA.
 
I just brewed this as my first attempt at All Grain. I pretty much did it as the recipe is written except I am using Safale 04 yeast.

Below is my procedure. I was surprised at my efficiency. FG was 1.060 into the ale pale. I wound up just a little over 80%

I am using a 7.5 gallon turkey fryer. It also came with a seafood strainer basket. I lined my strainer basket with a nylon bag.

I measured 5 gallons of water into the pot and brought it up to around 160.

I then stirred in my grain. The temp dropped to right below 150F. I ran the gas flame on low for about 5 minutes until it hit 152F, then turned it off and covered the pot for an hour. I stirred the grain 3 times and had to run the flame for a couple of minutes about halfway through. It only had a 2-3 degree swing the entire mash period.

I then lifted the strainer basket out and let it drain into the boil kettle. I heated 1.5 gallons of water on my stove to 180F and sat the grain bag in that for 10 minutes while I heated the wort to 170F.

I then poured the smaller kettle into my big one. That gave me about 6.5 gallons for my boil. When the temp of the wort hit 170 I tea bagged the grain it a few times, let it drain and started the boil.

I was surprised my gravity was so high. Next time I will go with a smaller grain bill.

Anyone see any problems with my procedure
 
Now, if I can just find an ale that mimics the light euro/german lagers of the heinekin/grolsh/becks style, I may not have ever even mess with lagers...

Try my Kolsch recipe. Be sure to boil 90 minutes and give it time to ferment 2 week min. It ferments out dry and crisp and the hops give it a Bitburger Pils taste.
 
Don't know if I've ever tried a Kolsch.. What is a popular brand kolsch that I might be able to buy at liquor barn so as to try out a beer representative of the style?...
 
Don't know if I've ever tried a Kolsch

I had never tried a kolsch - I brewed Ed's version - teh family and SWMBO loved it. It'll be brewed again w/in teh next month as teh keg spat at me last night. Likewise the Bee Cave Haus Pale.
 
a_w_taylor said:
Don't know if I've ever tried a Kolsch

I had never tried a kolsch - I brewed Ed's version - teh family and SWMBO loved it. It'll be brewed again w/in teh next month as teh keg spat at me last night. Likewise the Bee Cave Haus Pale.

If you can find Gaffel, that's my idea of a quintessential kolsch. It's light, has good balance with the tiniest straightforward malt flavor, and I can drink 6 of these with a smile on a summer day.

FYI kolsch is an ale that gets lagered at low temps at the end.
 
Finished brewing this a couple hours ago, and this was my first all grain. It went better than i expected. Nailed my mash temp and only lost 2 degrees over the hour. I calculated a 79% efficiency too. I cant wait to try it!
 
Here's a quick picture I took of my combo pale ale/IPA batch after it got the gelatin treatment. This is definitely going to be a staple that I keep on tap. The pale ale makes for a great hand pulled ale and the IPA is wonderful.

 
Just picked up ingredients for this brew today! Finally got all my AG equipment, so this will be my first AG batch. It looks fairly straightforward. I will post again in a few weeks to let you guys know how it turns out.
 
This finished bottle conditioning on February 24th I made a five gallon batch. I gave away 24-12 oz bottles and had 13-16 oz fliptop bottles for myself. Well today, a week later I have five 16 oz fliptop bottles left. This beer tastes amazing, crisp and clean. I do not get very much head on it when poured into the glass but damn it tastes good.
I gave a six pack to my buddy that sometimes brews with me and he liked it so much that he said we had to brew this so he could have some of his own. Well last weekend we brewed up a 10 gallon batch, been fermenting almost a week now, two weeks to go in the fermenter and then three weeks in the bottle. It's a good thing that I have EdWort's Kolsh conditioning in the botttles now for a week, only two weeks to go before I can taste another excellent beer, I am sure!!
Have to keep that pipeline going!!!
 
HoboBrewery said:
If you can find Gaffel, that's my idea of a quintessential kolsch. It's light, has good balance with the tiniest straightforward malt flavor, and I can drink 6 of these with a smile on a summer day.

FYI kolsch is an ale that gets lagered at low temps at the end.

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Some examples Kölsch from Köln that I've either seen on tap or in bottles are Reissdorf (recipe in Beer Captured) and Gaffel.

I lived in Köln for a while and hit every brewery in the city from Sion to Päffgen. I think my favorite of them all is Früh, the brewery right next to thh Kölner Dom.
They were all good, but very hard to find here.
 
This finished bottle conditioning on February 24th I made a five gallon batch. I gave away 24-12 oz bottles and had 13-16 oz fliptop bottles for myself. Well today, a week later I have five 16 oz fliptop bottles left. This beer tastes amazing, crisp and clean. I do not get very much head on it when poured into the glass but damn it tastes good.
I gave a six pack to my buddy that sometimes brews with me and he liked it so much that he said we had to brew this so he could have some of his own. Well last weekend we brewed up a 10 gallon batch, been fermenting almost a week now, two weeks to go in the fermenter and then three weeks in the bottle. It's a good thing that I have EdWort's Kolsh conditioning in the botttles now for a week, only two weeks to go before I can taste another excellent beer, I am sure!!
Have to keep that pipeline going!!!

I had that same issue with not much head the 1st time i brewed this. I added an additional pound of 2-row the 2nd time and it gave it the perfect head and body IMO. I believe it had to do with my efficiency the first time around, hence the additional pound of grain.
 
Drinking my first batch of this on today. I did the extract version with leaf hops. Its excellent, much better than the Amber Ale kit from Northwest that I did as my first brew.

In a few minutes I will be bottling my 3rd brew which was an all grain version of this using Safeale04 yeast and pellet hops. I like it so much I may use it as a base brew to try different hops and modified boil times to learn.
 
Brewed 10gallons of this yesterday. Used US-05 yeast (1.5L starter) and she's fermenting hard and fast now in less than 5 hrs! Simple recipe, can't wait to taste it!
 
I brewed this as my first brew (I did AG too as a first brew). I ended up with about 70% efficiency with the mash. I had a boil over and with boil off I ended up with 4 gal post boil. I didn't top off and I just set into fermentation with a OG of 1.064. I pitched Wyeast 1056 on Presidents Day (brew day) and had air lock activation the next morning. I just racked into the secondary at 1.011 (so about 6.92% alcohol) after 12 days in the primary. I'm going to secondary for 7 days. I am planning on adding gelatin to the secondary after 5 days and put it in the fridge for 2 more days to clear. Going to keg next Saturday and hopefully drink in 2-3 weeks!

My sample was a bit bitter and rough with the alcohol (almost vodkaish, which I used in the air lock but it shouldn't have pulled in much) when I tried it 3 days ago and today it was a bit better but still bitter/alcohol flavor. I took the sample and chilled it in ice for a taste and it tasted A LOT better. So I'm hoping after clearing and keg conditioning I'll have a nice brew to enjoy during the next brew day!
 
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