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Ahh yes. The ol' SF/Peninsula vs East Bay debate, conducted by a bunch of people who moved here 10 years ago.

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I've only been here 5.

10 years ago, was over the hill even considered part of the bay? It might as well have been Santa Barbara according to my relatives in the East Bay/SF.
 
Ahh yes. The ol' SF/Peninsula vs East Bay debate, conducted by a bunch of people who moved here 10 years ago.

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Well, it is specific to beer scenes, so I don't see how seniority matters given that most breweries in the area are less than three years old, but whatever. How long do I have to live in Marin for before I can tell you that the beer scene is...not good?
 
I've only been here 5.

10 years ago, was over the hill even considered part of the bay? It might as well have been Santa Barbara according to my relatives in the East Bay/SF.

It still isn't.

Well, it is specific to beer scenes, so I don't see how seniority matters given that most breweries in the area are less than three years old, but whatever. How long do I have to live in Marin for before I can tell you that the beer scene is...not good?

It's not about seniority. It's about how pointless this debate is. Visit places outside of your "scene", drink beer and enjoy life. That's what's fun about this ****, right?
 
It's not about seniority. It's about how pointless this debate is. Visit places outside of your "scene", drink beer and enjoy life. That's what's fun about this ****, right?
Oh, I agree with you on all that. It is pointless, but it's fun to argue sometimes. Hell, five years ago the best breweries in the "Bay Area" were in Sonoma.
 
My air bnb is down the hill in the north part of mission. Zeitgeist and the crafty fox a stones throw. I know this isn't really a beer q, but what are the best dive bars in that General area?
 
My air bnb is down the hill in the north part of mission. Zeitgeist and the crafty fox a stones throw. I know this isn't really a beer q, but what are the best dive bars in that General area?
Lucky 13 on Market is walkable. Also, it's a handful of blocks, but Doc's Clock is a classic and it's moving soon. Worth a look if you get down that way.
 
My feelings on the Toronado should be well known here by now, but I will add:
T30 party is gonna be ******* awesome. They've got 30 different brewery's making a beer for the event.
A st, cellarmaker, sante, lost abbey, TRB, etc
 
My feelings on the Toronado should be well known here by now, but I will add:
T30 party is gonna be ******* awesome. They've got 30 different brewery's making a beer for the event.
A st, cellarmaker, sante, lost abbey, TRB, etc
That would be cool. I really miss the old anniversary parties. That one where they had Rorie's for sale... so fun.
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Cool, I might be there next week and it would be nice to grab a couple bottles.
 
My air bnb is down the hill in the north part of mission. Zeitgeist and the crafty fox a stones throw. I know this isn't really a beer q, but what are the best dive bars in that General area?


+1 for Doc's Clock.

The Lone Palm is cool to check out because it's stuck in time.
Delirium kinda sucks. Kilowatt is okay. Monks kettle is right by both of em.
500 club was cool for my 22nd birthday cause they got me real well and I think I yacked out the window on the bay bridge.
Elbo room is cool sometimes cause they randomly have noise shows or good djs + pinball.

P much covered most of em in the mission. The rio is cool and there is this restaurant the front porch is you go down a lil farther down the mission.
If you're at toronado and wanna play pool go to molotov
 
I also just remembered that last time I had a night out and drove around the mission I noticed a bunch of people lining up for bars/"clubs" like north beach, what is this all about? Make out room was the only spot that was like that and the spot by the movie theater.

Also amnesia is good sometimes.
The chapel has good shows sometimes too and good cocktails at the usual sf $$ price point. Crown of thorns for bae and lady Guadalupe for me
 
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+1 for Doc's Clock.

The Lone Palm is cool to check out because it's stuck in time.
Delirium kinda sucks. Kilowatt is okay. Monks kettle is right by both of em.
500 club was cool for my 22nd birthday cause they got me real well and I think I yacked out the window on the bay bridge.
Elbo room is cool sometimes cause they randomly have noise shows or good djs + pinball.

P much covered most of em in the mission. The rio is cool and there is this restaurant the front porch is you go down a lil farther down the mission.
If you're at toronado and wanna play pool go to molotov

Awesome bars!

Lone Palm is my local spot
 
Unless things have drastically changed, I would recommend skipping Woodfour. It's a nice place, but their beers haven't been terribly good.

The others on that list are good. Fogbelt has been pretty decent the couple times I've been there.
 
Unless things have drastically changed, I would recommend skipping Woodfour. It's a nice place, but their beers haven't been terribly good.

The others on that list are good. Fogbelt has been pretty decent the couple times I've been there.
I went to Woodfour about three years ago and was underwhelmed by the beer, as well. Was hoping it had gotten better. Great space, though, and the food looked good. I believe they had guest taps then, but can't confirm if that's still the case.
 
Unless things have drastically changed, I would recommend skipping Woodfour. It's a nice place, but their beers haven't been terribly good.

The others on that list are good. Fogbelt has been pretty decent the couple times I've been there.

I went to Woodfour about three years ago and was underwhelmed by the beer, as well. Was hoping it had gotten better. Great space, though, and the food looked good. I believe they had guest taps then, but can't confirm if that's still the case.

Good to know, we are planning on hitting up Bodega Bay for the afternoon before heading to Santa Rosa. Woodfour is on the way so if timing works out, we will probably stop for science purposes. Plan is to hit Russian River in the late afternoon and the rehearsal dinner is it Bear Republic, so I think that's plenty of beer for wine country...
 
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