Bay Area Thread

[RyanG1]

Nice event at Anchor for Yosemite.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/national-parks-100th-birthday-party-fundraiser-tickets-27013768910

 

[apatrick17]

Does Toronado have bottles of Cable Car for on-site frequently, or is it just for special events like this one/once in a while type thing? And when they do, what's the damage?

 

[chemman141]

Nice event at Anchor for Yosemite.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/national-parks-100th-birthday-party-fundraiser-tickets-27013768910

Damn, that sounds like a ton of fun and unlimited beers for $20 can't be beat!

 

[chemman141]

Does Toronado have bottles of Cable Car for on-site frequently, or is it just for special events like this one/once in a while type thing? And when they do, what's the damage?

They always have bottles, but usually just the most recent, or second most recent release of it.

 

[RyanG1]

Does Toronado have bottles of Cable Car for on-site frequently, or is it just for special events like this one/once in a while type thing? And when they do, what's the damage?

Not recently. Last few trips over the past months there has not been any Cable Car bottles. Usually for special events and randomly, too.

Damage can be steep. I forget exact pricing, but for current year I would expect around $80 upward to $250+ for 2008 - 2009. And then everything in between.

 

[chemman141]

Not recently. Last few trips over the past months there has not been any Cable Car bottles. Usually for special events and randomly, too.

Damage can be steep. I forget exact pricing, but for current year I would expect around $80 upward to $250+ for 2008 - 2009. And then everything in between.

Interesting, the handful of times I have been there they have had bottles. It has been ~6 months though.

 

[rrryanc]

Not recently. Last few trips over the past months there has not been any Cable Car bottles. Usually for special events and randomly, too.

Damage can be steep. I forget exact pricing, but for current year I would expect around $80 upward to $250+ for 2008 - 2009. And then everything in between.

Was there in late June this year and they had several years on. A bottle of 2014 was $80. It went up fast past that.

 

[Xul1]

Was there in late June this year and they had several years on. A bottle of 2014 was $80. It went up fast past that.

Wow, Toronado SF has apparently discovered the joys of Toronado SD's vintage pricing structure. That's disappointing.

 

[chemman141]

Wow, Toronado SF has apparently discovered the joys of Toronado SD's vintage pricing structure. That's disappointing.

It's always been that way. As long as I have been going there at least (3-4 years?)

 

[RyanG1]

Yep!

 

[pen15clubmember]

It's always been that way. As long as I have been going there at least (3-4 years?)

I can verify that this goes back to at least 2013.

 

[GuzzleMcBrew]

Yep!

"A sour ale/Wild Ale"

SeaWatchman just got a headache somewhere

 

[stupac2]

It's always been that way. As long as I have been going there at least (3-4 years?)

That started after the old manager Steve left and Dave took a more active role in running the bar. I'd guess that was around 2013? Before that the old ones weren't much more than the new ones, the problem was getting them to sell the damn things.

 

[mikehblack]

Some Toronado bottle list prices around 2012 were: '08 Cantillon Kriek 750ml $30, '04 Cantillon Iris 375ml $20, Batch 4 Temptation 750ml $40, all available to go. They were having some great cellar sales that summer. I would say things have definitely changed since then.

 

[jtmartino1]

Yep!

That's like ~20x retail. Good job Dave.

 

[rrryanc]

That started after the old manager Steve left and Dave took a more active role in running the bar. I'd guess that was around 2013? Before that the old ones weren't much more than the new ones, the problem was getting them to sell the damn things.

Right, the upside to the new pricing is you don't have to butter up the bartenders and hope there is something worth drinking on the real bottle list. The downside is they got wise that the pricing was waaaay under market.

 

[matedog]

On a rare occasion, I might shell out for the most recent vintage Cable Car (were at $60). If people are willing to pay the gouged prices, more power to Toronado, I guess. Like CBS, I'm not going to pay those Cantillon prices though. Yeesh.

 

[CommanderofAwesome]

On a rare occasion, I might shell out for the most recent vintage Cable Car (were at $60). If people are willing to pay the gouged prices, more power to Toronado, I guess. Like CBS, I'm not going to pay those Cantillon prices though. Yeesh.

I've only been to toranado once and thought the bar sucked. We really just need some half decent bars to come into SF and put it out of business.

Beer Rev is still the best beer bar in the bay area by a mile IMO.

 

[AndresR]

I've only been to toranado once and thought the bar sucked. We really just need some half decent bars to come into SF and put it out of business.

Beer Rev is still the best beer bar in the bay area by a mile IMO.

Toronado SF vs Toronado SD, night and day differences.

 

[coldstorage]

I've only been to toranado once and thought the bar sucked. We really just need some half decent bars to come into SF and put it out of business.

 

[chemman141]

This is absolutely the perfect gif for this lolo

 

[CommanderofAwesome]

Place is a **** hole, with **** service, high prices on bottles, and a tap list that majority of the time is fairly average these days. What is there to love about it? I guess it was great 5+ yrs ago?

 

[pen15clubmember]

Place is a **** hole, with **** service, high prices on bottles, and a tap list that majority of the time is fairly average these days. What is there to love about it? I guess it was great 5+ yrs ago?

Honestly, one could make those same arguments about Beer Rev, except the service part. I've never had issues at Toronado. YMMV

 

[Xul1]

Honestly, one could make those same arguments about Beer Rev, except the service part. I've never had issues at Toronado. YMMV

Stayed directly across the street from Beer Rev for three nights last year and had two pints there the entire weekend. At least I know I can always get Reality Czeck at Toro.

 

[rrryanc]

Place is a **** hole, with **** service, high prices on bottles, and a tap list that majority of the time is fairly average these days. What is there to love about it? I guess it was great 5+ yrs ago?

Honestly, one could make those same arguments about Beer Rev, except the service part. I've never had issues at Toronado. YMMV

Unless you have an emotional attachment, which is easy to do with those two if you've been drinking craft beer in the bay for longer than 4 years, both of them are kinda ****** bars at this point. Taplists have become watered down as more places put good beer on, they're both pretty dingy (putting it nicely), and the location of Beer Rev is awful and the service at Toro is hit or miss (plus cash only, wtf?).

Still, Beer Rev hosted kick-ass bottle shares, still has lots of local stuff on draft, and a reasonable bottle selection. Toronado is one of the oldest (the oldest?) craft beer bar in the states.

Honestly, there aren't a lot of good beer bars in the area, much less great ones. I stick to the ones close to my house for the most part, which all have their pluses and minuses (Ale Arsenal, Gourmet Haus Staudt and Harry's Hofbrau).

 

[jtmartino1]

^this **** is why I just drink beer at home

 

[pen15clubmember]

^this **** is why I just drink beer at home

I'm sure your bathroom situation is a little nicer than Toronado or Beer Rev.

 

[drgarage1]

I'm sure your bathroom situation is a little nicer than Toronado or Beer Rev.

You don't know that.

I will just say that the tap list at Toronado is miles ahead of where it was two years ago.

 

[RyanG1]

I'm sure your bathroom situation is a little nicer than Toronado or Beer Rev.

I've been steadily tagging it, not lifting the seat and smoking weed in jtmartino WC.

 

[Gambit1]

Sunny Sunday afternoon at Beer Rev on the patio, with a BLT on a sourdough roll from Annex and grab a bottle to go before the $5 Jack London theater is where it's at.