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A good chunk of change. Without traffic my guess is easily $100+. Look into zip car, get a round or enterprise has a new car share. Would be a fraction of the cost.
Or even just renting a car - depends when exactly but could BART to SFO and rent a car without any hassle at all and likely <$50 for a 24 hour rental.
 
quick ?... anyone know what an Uber from SF to SARA would run? Any good places near SARA to stay for a night?

$130 at the Quality Inn, which is actually a decent hotel.

You'll be $200 all-in with a rental car for one night.

Or, you can CalTrain down to San Jose and Uber over the hill. Uber from San Jose (College Park Station) to Sante should run around $50. Caltrain 4 zones is $10 each way. So that option is probably $120 total.

But, your trip is probably a good 45 mins longer each way by train.
 
$130 at the Quality Inn, which is actually a decent hotel.

You'll be $200 all-in with a rental car for one night.

Or, you can CalTrain down to San Jose and Uber over the hill. Uber from San Jose (College Park Station) to Sante should run around $50. Caltrain 4 zones is $10 each way. So that option is probably $120 total.

But, your trip is probably a good 45 mins longer each way by train.
There's a HWY 17 bus as well that I've seen on my drive over. If you really want to be cheap about it and really don't care how long it takes.
 
There's a HWY 17 bus as well that I've seen on my drive over. If you really want to be cheap about it and really don't care how long it takes.

The bus?

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quick ?... anyone know what an Uber from SF to SARA would run? Any good places near SARA to stay for a night?
...or let everyone here know when you are doing this, meet a fellow beer geeky person in SF, and ride down with them.
New friend acquired, saving the planet, and keeping one more car off Hwy 17 = world peace
 
...or let everyone here know when you are doing this, meet a fellow beer geeky person in SF, and ride down with them.
New friend acquired, saving the planet, and keeping one more car off Hwy 17 = world peace

ha! yeah, I know a couple of people have offered in the past but I don't want to take up anyone's time like that.
 
ha! yeah, I know a couple of people have offered in the past but I don't want to take up anyone's time like that.
If you poke around a bit, you'll find a steady flow of bay area / Sante day trippers to jump in with. Lots of folks will probably enjoy the company/conversion.

Just don't chat SARA bottle trade value, or you might find yourself on the side of the 17.
 
I'd offer it up for Saturday evening, but you'll be sitting next to my dog getting dog hair and licks the whole trip down.

as for the share, I'd be down for any other sunday or saturday evening. Gotta spend time with the pops on this one.
 
If you poke around a bit, you'll find a steady flow of bay area / Sante day trippers to jump in with. Lots of folks will probably enjoy the company/conversion.

Just don't chat SARA bottle trade value, or you might find yourself on the side of the 17.

ha.. yeah, no... I'm lucky to be part of SARA Cellar... I'd just like to spend a night or two and hang w/ the folks down there. The rest of the trip would be spent in SF (mainly Cellarmaker)
 
Also, we put "the" in front of our highways and freeways. We don't know why, but we do.
Cause it's grammatically correct. Numbers are adjectives. You have to put an indefinite article in order to clarify that you're referring to a thing as opposed to an amount of something. It typically is a SoCal/NorCal divide on that too. NorCal just does it wrong :(
 
I had thought that was a Norcal/Socal distinction. Socal being the ones who put 'the' in front.
This is true. My first year at UCSD I managed to somehow end up in a dorm with mostly NorCal people, and they found my use of the word “the” in front of freeways to be curious. Also they drank Cactus Cooler at every opportunity they could get.
 
Cause it's grammatically correct. Numbers are adjectives. You have to put an indefinite article in order to clarify that you're referring to a thing as opposed to an amount of something. It typically is a SoCal/NorCal divide on that too. NorCal just does it wrong :(
It's a colloquial expression/shortening of a proper noun, and therefore does not require an indefinite article to proceed it. Then again, it's English, so it's impossible to be wrong.

Think about it this way, if you're going to write out the full name, do you still add a the? "I'm going to take the Highway 17 to Sante" - at the best that makes you sound like a giant ******. So you don't need to add it when you just shorten it to 17. Unless you think that the person you're talking to is too stupid to understand from the context that you're not talking about an amount.
 
Doesn’t really have to do with proper grammar anyway… Wikipedia has a little note about how this came about:
When Southern California freeways were built in the 1940s and early 1950s, local common usage was primarily the freeway name preceded by the definite article, such as "the Hollywood Freeway". It took several decades for Southern California locals to start to commonly refer to the freeways with the numerical designations, but usage of the definite article persisted. For example, it evolved to "the 605 Freeway" and then shortened to "the 605". That did not occur in Northern California, where usage of the route numbers was more common.
My dad (who is ancient and was born and raised in SoCal) still prefers to call freeways by their original names (the Pasadena Freeway, etc.).
 
Cause it's grammatically correct. Numbers are adjectives. You have to put an indefinite article in order to clarify that you're referring to a thing as opposed to an amount of something. It typically is a SoCal/NorCal divide on that too. NorCal just does it wrong :(

Christ, can we please go back to arguing about trade values again.
 
Think about it this way, if you're going to write out the full name, do you still add a the? "I'm going to take the Highway 17 to Sante" - at the best that makes you sound like a giant ******.
No, because "highway" in that context *is* the article. So you can say "take Highway 17" or "take the 17," but not "take the Highway 17" or, like most NorCal folk, "take 17." If someone from the east coast was visiting, where they say the proper name of whatever expressway they're talking about and usually omit a number, they'd ask why the highway toll was so damn high if you just said "take 17 to Santa Cruz."

I will absolutely die on this hill.
 
Doesn’t really have to do with proper grammar anyway… Wikipedia has a little note about how this came about:

My dad (who is ancient and was born and raised in SoCal) still prefers to call freeways by their original names (the Pasadena Freeway, etc.).
The Wiki writeup was interesting and makes sense, but I still don't see how this explanation exempts NorCal, which also has/d named freeways, from doing the same thing. The Bayshore Freeway, the Nimitz, and the 'ol Cypress all come to mind.
 

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