Bay Area Thread

[Krokodil]

I believe the 41st Ave. location has breakfast burritos plus tortas, etc.

41st > Water St. imo.

de la hacienda or death, my dude.

 

[snuffy707]

If you don't know, now you know http://www.talkbeer.com/community/threads/bay-area-bottle-share-may-21st-6-30pm.23405/

 

[Arbitrator]

I'm planning to show my peepee at Cellarmaker tonight if anyone is interested.

Well, **** all y'all. I'm keeping my peepee to myself from now on.

 

[preacher1]

Well, **** all y'all. I'm keeping my peepee to myself from now on.

touching will get a better response

 

[buzzword]

which moreno's has breakfast burritos?

anyways; i support all burrito recs itt. but if you're on east cliff, skip michoacan and hit up salsa's taco bar. stupid name, great food.

as far as SF: farolito will destroy you i suggest the super suiza. if you like lard go cancun, they will not let you down. papalote is also excellent but more "domestic" (i like the masonic/fulton location because the line tends to be shorter but phoning ahead is suggested.) my personal #1 is el buen sabor tho.

ditto on buen sabor. super underrated.

also, not mission, but el castillito

 

[Krokodil]

^can't believe i forgot castillito. i know they have more than one location but the one off market by duboce/n-line/toro/safeway is great and relatively cheap iirc

 

[JulianB1]

Change of plans for today, looking like we'll bum around Walnut Creek mostly instead and head into SF proper tomorrow for the day. Still hoping to do SARA at some point, probably on the weekend.

 

[stupac2]

Walnut Creek

...why?

 

[JulianB1]

...why?

That's where my friends I'm staying with live. Looks like there's one nice beer store/bar here. I'm going to hang out there while my friend has her hair done.

 

[matedog]

That's where my friends I'm staying with live. Looks like there's one nice beer store/bar here. I'm going to hang out there while my friend has her hair done.

OL is probably what you are referring to. Hop Grenade in Concord isn't too far.

 

[tosh1]

If OL I might stop by after a meeting in WC around 2ish.

 

[JulianB1]

If OL I might stop by after a meeting in WC around 2ish.

Yes OL, and I'll try to make it happen that we're there around that time. Might hop out then hop back in a bit later or something.

 

[snuffy707]

...why?

Hey Buddy, there's nothing wrong with Walnut Creek.

Ps, go to Sunol Ridge for beers only, their list is pretty good.

 

[tosh1]

Yes OL, and I'll try to make it happen that we're there around that time. Might hop out then hop back in a bit later or something.

Not 100% sure, depends if i have to get to Oakland or not straight after.

 

[JulianB1]

Hey Buddy, there's nothing wrong with Walnut Creek.

Ps, go to Sunol Ridge for beers only, their list is pretty good.

Thanks for the tip, pretty decent taplist!

EDIT: snuffy707, any reason for the "beers only" comment, is the food no good or something? Thought about making grabbing lunch there, but can easily be talked out of it.

 

[AndresR]

All WF's have beer 20% off tomorrow, the 15th. I'm sure it's bombers and mixed packs. Time to pull some triggers on questionable ****.

 

[behindalens]

Any seasonal beers you guys are eyeing? I think I'm going to stock up on some Cascade Sours, but I'm wondering if there is any BBA beers I should look for as well. Unfortunately, I've got too many IPA's that are slowly aging to really try stuff.

 

[burgundysmoke]

my whole foods has cascade priced as 30-32 pre tax, so after 20% off you only save 1 dollar on the same beer priced at 25-28 elsewhere.

 

[falc0n26001]

Hell, I saw Cascade Apricot for $19.95 in Portland the other day. Are they learning how to price appropriately?!



Or has the bottle just sat for 6 months too long?

 

[gregkoko]

Hell, I saw Cascade Apricot for $19.95 in Portland the other day. Are they learning how to price appropriately?!



Or has the bottle just sat for 6 months too long?

Cascade has always priced Apricot at $20 or just under. Store/Distributor markups are a whole other thing entirely

 

[JulianB1]

More 'burbs talk: anyone been to Hop Grenade in Concord? Thinking it might be worth the quick BART trip later this evening, based on their online info.

 

[stupac2]

Cascade has always priced Apricot at $20 or just under. Store/Distributor markups are a whole other thing entirely

Well, no, because stores/distributors aren't just marking Cascade up far more than other, similar products. Cascade's wholesale prices have to be something comparable to their in-house prices in order for that markup to make sense at all, which is entirely their fault.

They want their beer to be $30 in stores around here, or they'd lower their wholesale price. I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone buys it, it's not worth 1/3 that price.

 

[matedog]

Well, no, because stores/distributors aren't just marking Cascade up far more than other, similar products. Cascade's wholesale prices have to be something comparable to their in-house prices in order for that markup to make sense at all, which is entirely their fault.

They want their beer to be $30 in stores around here, or they'd lower their wholesale price. I find it absolutely astonishing that anyone buys it, it's not worth 1/3 that price.

I guess in their defense, they do use real fruit which seems a lot more labor intensive (ie pitting apricots, etc.) than Rare Barrel and Bruery's use of puree. Not sure about any other brewers and it's quite possible they are still a lot more expensive than those who employ similar methods.

 

[AptosBeerDrinker]

Word.





Oh no you didn't!!

Water St is the OG location, still run by the family...I don't even consider 41st Ave to be a true Moreno location; their pastor & chicken aren't in the same league as the Water St location.

Different strokes. I work two blocks from the Water St. location and have been going there probably 1-2 times a week for the past 10 years. 41st is better. Also, as Krokodil said Hacienda>41st>Water St. All 3 are Moreno extended family.

 

[CommanderofAwesome]

I've always enjoyed Cascades I've tried. The cascade beers at Oakquinox a couple of weeks ago were some of best in show I thought.

 

[stupac2]

I guess in their defense, they do use real fruit which seems a lot more labor intensive (ie pitting apricots, etc.) than Rare Barrel and Bruery's use of puree. Not sure about any other brewers and it's quite possible they are still a lot more expensive than those who employ similar methods.

So does Cantillon and those beers are like 8 euro at the brewery. I really don't think that impacts their costs enough to justify the price.

 

[matedog]

I've always enjoyed Cascades I've tried. The cascade beers at Oakquinox a couple of weeks ago were some of best in show I thought.

The rub for me is that you can get a 750mL of 3F kriek for like $22, but Cascade Kriek, which is objectively not as good, costs $30+. And travels a lot less far.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy their stuff, particularly Apricot, but it is a lot more expensive without the qualitative difference to make up for it.

 

[matedog]

So does Cantillon and those beers are like 8 euro at the brewery. I really don't think that impacts their costs enough to justify the price.

I've made that point when Beat costs more than 3F and Cantillon 375mL gueuzes.

 

[CommanderofAwesome]

The rub for me is that you can get a 750mL of 3F kriek for like $22, but Cascade Kriek, which is objectively not as good, costs $30+. And travels a lot less far.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy their stuff, particularly Apricot, but it is a lot more expensive without the qualitative difference to make up for it.

True, difference there being Cascades are on shelf, 3F is harder to find particularly in the 750 format.

Not arguing that cascade isn't over priced, just think I think they taste good.

 

[stupac2]

I've made that point when Beat costs more than 3F and Cantillon 375mL gueuzes.

Yes, pretty much every beer that costs more than 50 cents an ounce has pricing that's unmoored from its production costs. Are you going to list all of them? It's a long list.

My point is just that, in Cascade's particular case, the fact that they use a marginally more expensive ingredient doesn't mean that their costs are what justifies their prices. Nothing justifies their prices, except that apparently there are people out there dumb enough to pay that.