Bay Area Thread

[johnnyramirez]

uhhh basically SF > everywhere, full stop.

SD is pretty awesome and I'm heading to Portland in 3 weeks so we'll see how that is compared to SF but I agree with this statement. It's definitely better than any American city.

 

[rrryanc]

SD is pretty awesome and I'm heading to Portland in 3 weeks so we'll see how that is compared to SF but I agree with this statement. It's definitely better than any American city.

I'll take SD over SF, myself. Seattle and Portland are great, if it weren't for the rain. The east coast is the worst, I'll never move back. Traveled quite a bit internationally the last two years as well, and nothing's been as nice as SD for me. Still need to make it to Australia though before I make that statement definitive.

 

[Arbitrator]

I'll take SD over SF, myself. Seattle and Portland are great, if it weren't for the rain. The east coast is the worst, I'll never move back. Traveled quite a bit internationally the last two years as well, and nothing's been as nice as SD for me. Still need to make it to Australia though before I make that statement definitive.

Climate-, beer-, and affordability-wise, definitely SD. But there are so few tech jobs there that I'm resigned to the Bay Area for the time being.

NYC is pretty awesome though...

 

[rrryanc]

Climate-, beer-, and affordability-wise, definitely SD. But there are so few tech jobs there that I'm resigned to the Bay Area for the time being.

NYC is pretty awesome though...

We share the same reason for being in the Bay Area, unfortunately.

I'm in the reasonable minority in that I really dislike NYC. I'm not much of a big city guy to start with, and then you add in ****** weather, dirty streets, stupid prices, ******* new yorkers, and did I mention ****** weather?? It's where pretty much all of my friends from college moved, and even crippling loneliness the first year in SD wasn't enough to convince me to move back to the north east.

 

[Sage1]

Still need to make it to Australia though before I make that statement definitive.

I really really want to visit Australia, but I'm pretty sure their beer scene doesn't hold a candle to SD's. *He says while sipping In the Curl on the Obriens patio in perfect weather*

 

[RyanG1]

drgarage the Krazy Eyez Kiwi IPA is a good pickup! Didn't try the new Pale Ale, but will be back to refill the growler!

 

[Adam Jackson]

uhhh basically SF > everywhere, full stop.

We can discuss this tonight at GK but I've lived in Florida (Southern & Northern), Alabama, San Francisco & Central NH/VT for 4+ years each place.

Vermont wins hands down hand and fist above San Francisco / Bay area

Upsides:
$1500 to rent a 3 bedroom house on 5 acres of land w/ heat included
Four seasons of gorgeous amazing weather, yes even the snow. I love it!
The best beer in the world outside of the Senne Valley of Belgium
No traffic
No homeless people
Remarkable local scene, huge community support, 'buy local' isn't a buzzword, it's really your only choice. We don't have a Wal*Mart or Target. Farmers markets are our grocery stores
canadians are amazing people and we're neighbors.
3 hours from Boston
5 from NYC
8 from Philly
I can fire off a semi-automatic firearm in my back yard 24/7 and no one gives a crap
I can trap, hunt, raise animals, grow crops and make maple syrup off my land
Bonfires are legal and non-regulated
Fireworks are not regulated.

Downsides
We have very ****** Internet & cell phone connections
No Zipcar, TaskRabbit, Uber
Zero places deliver to my house NONE.
Everything in my town closes at 8PM and 'town' is 15 miles away
Moose. Gorgeous creatures but if you hit one, you're dead.

But this is the bay area thread so I'm just gonna hang my head in shame and say #GoGiants and hope to not get stabbed by one of you guys.

 

[rrryanc]

We can discuss this tonight at GK but I've lived in Florida (Southern & Northern), Alabama, San Francisco & Central NH/VT for 4+ years each place.

Vermont wins hands down hand and fist above San Francisco / Bay area

Upsides:
$1500 to rent a 3 bedroom house on 5 acres of land w/ heat included
Four seasons of gorgeous amazing weather, yes even the snow. I love it!
The best beer in the world outside of the Senne Valley of Belgium
No traffic
No homeless people
Remarkable local scene, huge community support, 'buy local' isn't a buzzword, it's really your only choice. We don't have a Wal*Mart or Target. Farmers markets are our grocery stores
canadians are amazing people and we're neighbors.
3 hours from Boston
5 from NYC
8 from Philly
I can fire off a semi-automatic firearm in my back yard 24/7 and no one gives a crap
I can trap, hunt, raise animals, grow crops and make maple syrup off my land
Bonfires are legal and non-regulated
Fireworks are not regulated.

Downsides
We have very ****** Internet & cell phone connections
No Zipcar, TaskRabbit, Uber
Zero places deliver to my house NONE.
Everything in my town closes at 8PM and 'town' is 15 miles away
Moose. Gorgeous creatures but if you hit one, you're dead.

But this is the bay area thread so I'm just gonna hang my head in shame and say #GoGiants and hope to not get stabbed by one of you guys.

Eh, you don't have to get very far out of the Bay Area to knock off most of your upsides. Especially if being 3 hours from the nearest metropolitan area is a plus. My parents live just outside of Chico and they have every single thing on your list but the fireworks and the Canadians. Also, while Vermont may have 4 seasons, 3 combined weeks of Spring and Fall a year are a pretty poor showing.

Also, you didn't put "really terrible Mexican food" on your downside list, so I think you're forgetting a few things.

 

[Adam Jackson]

I didn't want to mention culinary cause that is absolutely true. Don't ever order Sushi, Thai, Indian or Mexican food in Vermont unless you hate yourself.

 

[johnnyramirez]

I'd rather be 5 hours from LA, 7 from SD and 9 from Portland than 3, 5 and 8 from NYC, Boston and Philly respectively. And I say this having never been to Portland. NYC and Philly kinda suck. Boston is cool though

 

[litheum94]

Alpine is hitting the Bay Area on draft next week.

Really hope to see some in Sonoma County. Taps and Whole Foods Coddingtown are probably our best bet.

 

[Arbitrator]

Also, you didn't put "really terrible Mexican food" on your downside list, so I think you're forgetting a few things.

Not trolling, but I had some fantastic Mexican food with bird22 in VT. Blackback Pub of all places. Srs.

****** weather, dirty streets, stupid prices, ******** new yorkers, and did I mention ****** weather??

Most of those things apply to SF too. Ok, sort of trolling now...

And while I loved VT, the downsides are total dealbreakers. "No tech jobs" should be on the list, too.

 

[Adam Jackson]

I have a tech job in VT. my office Is 5 feet from my bed.

But I'm also trolling. Normally no, vt is not a tech hub.

 

[rrryanc]

Not trolling, but I had some fantastic Mexican food with bird22 in VT. Blackback Pub of all places. Srs.



Most of those things apply to SF too. Ok, sort of trolling now...

And while I loved VT, the downsides are total dealbreakers. "No tech jobs" should be on the list, too.

There's a reason I don't live in the city, and it's not just that it's too expensive and too far from work. I'm curious now about this excellent mexican place you ate at. When I went to school out there, I never saw any mexicans at all and the food definitely reflected that. Good cuban and puerto rican food though.

 

[drgarage1]

drgarage the Krazy Eyez Kiwi IPA is a good pickup! Didn't try the new Pale Ale, but will be back to refill the growler!

Agreed. Delicious.

 

[buzzword]

We can discuss this tonight at GK but I've lived in Florida (Southern & Northern), Alabama, San Francisco & Central NH/VT for 4+ years each place.

Vermont wins hands down hand and fist above San Francisco / Bay area

Upsides:

• $1500 to rent a 3 bedroom house on 5 acres of land w/ heat included
  • Would suit your needs, but not necessarily everyone's.
• Four seasons of gorgeous amazing weather, yes even the snow. I love it!
  • I like my one season
• The best beer in the world outside of the Senne Valley of Belgium
  • Subjective. Reported!!!
• No traffic
  • Got me there.
• No homeless people
  • I have literally 0 daily interaction with homeless people.
• Remarkable local scene, huge community support, 'buy local' isn't a buzzword, it's really your only choice. We don't have a Wal*Mart or Target. Farmers markets are our grocery stores
  • Mine too
• canadians are amazing people and we're neighbors.
  • Subjective. Reported!!!
• 3 hours from Boston
  • Keep it.
• 5 from NYC
  • See above.
• 8 from Philly
  • See above.
• I can fire off a semi-automatic firearm in my back yard 24/7 and no one gives a crap
  • Ok - this is compelling.
• I can trap, hunt, raise animals, grow crops and make maple syrup off my land
  • ISO syrup
• Bonfires are legal and non-regulated
  • Hidden backyard I've had many a backyard bonfire here in SF. Also, Ocean Beach.
• Fireworks are not regulated.
  • Meh. 14-year-old me would be excited by this.

Downsides

• We have very ****** Internet & cell phone connections
  • That's like, a bummer, man.
• No Zipcar, TaskRabbit, Uber
  • I only use one of these...
• Zero places deliver to my house NONE.
  • The only thing I ever order via delivery is Big Lantern Chinese food. Mmmmmm. Big Lantern.
• Everything in my town closes at 8PM and 'town' is 15 miles away
  • That is a downside.
• Moose. Gorgeous creatures but if you hit one, you're dead.
  • Can't you just shoot them as per above? In Alaska, they sell these things called Seal Bombs that are meant to scare seals off of docks and such - what about a similar solution for moose?

But this is the bay area thread so I'm just gonna hang my head in shame and say #GoGiants and hope to not get stabbed by one of you guys.

See only sorta serious commentary above. As a displaced Texan, I have to say #GoRangers. That is all.

 

[jtmartino1]

We share the same reason for being in the Bay Area, unfortunately.

Same here! But that doesn't stop me from looking for work-from-home jobs...making a SF wage and living in SD is a best case scenario at this point.

The City is awesome, but coastal SD is awesomer for me (and the wife). Each time we go down there it gets harder and harder to come back. The vibe is unbeatable.

 

[Bluecane]

See only sorta serious commentary above. As a displaced Texan, I have to say #GoRangers. That is all.

ISO: invitation to backyard bonfire.

 

[evilhead]

ISO: a legit 3L enthusiast (not trader)... one who can txt me "a tip" when a 3L shows up FT: the same for you

 

[RyanG1]

Nelson tapping at City Beer Store for those that care at Noon tomorrow

 

[drgarage1]

Nelson tapping at City Beer Store for those that care at Noon.

Today? Edit: It's tomorrow. Of all the ******* days to be in LA...

Good thing there's tons more coming!

 

[matedog]

Just saw Mikkeller is doing a Cantillon food/beer tasting on 4/27. Might still be some tickets left:
Sunday April 27th
Cantillon Tasting in the Tivoli Sour Room

Tickets on sale now through Brown Paper Tickets. See bottom of this post for link.

Join us in the downstairs cellar for a tasting of rare Cantillon Lambics paired with fare from our kitchen. This is a ticketed event limited to 2 seatings of 20 people each.
2PM Seating ($68):
Classic Gueuze
Rose de Gambrinus - Bucharet Crostini
Lou Pepe Kriek '11 - Pickeled Beets
Fou Foune '13 - Goat Sausage or Herb Gnocchi
4PM Seating ($84):
Lou Pepe Gueuze '09
Lou Pepe Framboise '10 - Bucheret Crostini
Lou Pepe Kriek '11 - Pickled Beets
Fou Foune '13 - Goat Sausage or Herb Gnocchi

2PM Seating link:
password: spontaneous
http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/641189

4PM Seating link:
password: spontaneous
http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/641240

 

[stupac2]

Just saw Mikkeller is doing a Cantillon food/beer tasting on 4/27. Might still be some tickets left:
Sunday April 27th
Cantillon Tasting in the Tivoli Sour Room

Tickets on sale now through Brown Paper Tickets. See bottom of this post for link.

Join us in the downstairs cellar for a tasting of rare Cantillon Lambics paired with fare from our kitchen. This is a ticketed event limited to 2 seatings of 20 people each.
2PM Seating ($68):
Classic Gueuze
Rose de Gambrinus - Bucharet Crostini
Lou Pepe Kriek '11 - Pickeled Beets
Fou Foune '13 - Goat Sausage or Herb Gnocchi
4PM Seating ($84):
Lou Pepe Gueuze '09
Lou Pepe Framboise '10 - Bucheret Crostini
Lou Pepe Kriek '11 - Pickled Beets
Fou Foune '13 - Goat Sausage or Herb Gnocchi

2PM Seating link:
password: spontaneous
http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/641189

4PM Seating link:
password: spontaneous
http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/641240

Ripoff. Seriously. You could nearly buy the whole bottles for those prices, and it's not like the food you're getting is making up the difference. I would absolutely never pay that price.

 

[matedog]

Ripoff. Seriously. You could nearly buy the whole bottles for those prices, and it's not like the food you're getting is making up the difference. I would absolutely never pay that price.

I went for the 2pm one. Something the gf and I could enjoy together. Expensive for sure (though not as bad as the 4pm), but getting access to even Classic Gueuze and Rose is a big pain these days. Perhaps when I decide to pony up and buy a big haul from Etre or BIAB, this will be less appealing.

 

[rrryanc]

Ripoff. Seriously. You could nearly buy the whole bottles for those prices, and it's not like the food you're getting is making up the difference. I would absolutely never pay that price.

Hyperbolic a bit much? It's overpriced, as Mikkeller tends to be, but it's hardly in the range of ripoff.

 

[buzzword]

Hyperbolic a bit much? It's overpriced, as Mikkeller tends to be, but it's hardly in the range of ripoff.

84 bucks for 4 cantillon pours and some snacks? very ripoff such bad wow.

 

[Arbitrator]

84 bucks for 4 cantillon pours and some snacks? very ripoff such bad wow.

Our tasting group posted the info on that. "Cantillon tasting" grabbed my eye, then I saw "Mikkeller."

 

[stupac2]

Hyperbolic a bit much? It's overpriced, as Mikkeller tends to be, but it's hardly in the range of ripoff.

I mean, if those are like 6-8 ounce pours then I guess it wouldn't be that bad. But they don't tell us that. And with 20 people per seating they'd need to do a full case per to get into that reasonable range. With the LPK and FF on both lists I'm sort of skeptical that they'd do that, which means you're splitting 3 bottles between 20 people, or 3 and change ounces per person. At actual, non-ridiculous retail, that would actually cost you $15 for the first one and $18 for the second. Those snacks have some value, I guess, but would you pay more than $15 for them? So we have something that "ought" to cost $30 going for $68, and something that "ought" to cost $33 going for $84. I think doubling a fair retailing price counts as a ripoff.

Of course, that's with the assumption that you're splitting those cases 40 ways, if they're more generous than that then it's a better deal. But given that this is Mikkellerbar/Trappist, do you really expect them to? I guess matedog can report back and let us know.

 

[drgarage1]

Does midwest pours doe.

 

[evilhead]

Mmmmm... pickled feets