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Wait until it breaks down, or you try and get on it during rush hour.

BART gets a lot of hate, but from someone who uses it 4-5 times a week during rush hour, it's honestly really damn good.

It is old. It can be dirty. The tracks need upgrading to accommodate faster trains to enhance throughput. People will sometimes refuse to give up their precious seats to the pregnant or elderly.

As someone who drove from East Bay to San Jose daily (880 gfy) or East Bay to RWC daily (84 and 92 gfy), I maintain that BART is seriously underrated considering the volume of people it manages to move reliably with 50's technology.

How's that Graveyard? Haven't tried it yet, but a big fan of Ponto and Swami's.

I really enjoy it. I don't like Ponto, but I enjoy Swami's, and I'd put Graveyard higher.

EDIT: gave it 3.75/5
 
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BART gets a lot of hate, but as someone who uses it 4-5 times a week during rush hour, it's honestly really damn good.

It is old. It can be dirty. The tracks need upgrading to accommodate faster trains to enhance throughput. People will sometimes refuse to give up their precious seats to the pregnant or elderly.

But as someone who drove from East Bay to San Jose daily (880 gfy) or East Bay to RWC daily (84 and 92 gfy), I maintain that BART is seriously underrated considering the volume of people it manages to move reliably with 50's technology.
I do not disagree, going to be interesting few years for BART in terms of working out the finances for the system overhaul that is required. The Bond Measure on the ballot measure does not even come close to what is required for the car replacement, never mind the updated train control system or even the second tube.
 
I do not disagree, going to be interesting few years for BART in terms of working out the finances for the system overhaul that is required. the Bond Measure on the ballot measure does not even come close to what is required for the car replacement, never mind the updated train control system or even the second tube.

I agree that BART's future (and what will happen to the Bay Area over the next 5-10 years) will be "interesting," and I'll leave it at that.
 
Those have been gone for over a year. Now you just have to worry about getting on a train with a homeless person that smells like 20+ years of urine and BO.

Eh, I've smelled worse in gueuzes. You just know that half the beer geeks on a BART train are fantasizing about getting a whiff of that homeless guy's underwear.
 
Yea I like Toronado.

Reminds me a good deal of the bar I used to work at. No muss no fuss. Walk up order a beer and give them money.

"I'll take two pints of Blind Pig"

"That will be ten dollars"

"Thanks. Keep the change."

*i do have an affection for surly bartenders.
 
Yeah I was in Seattle in May and that traffic was horrendous. I hadn't been up that way since 2012 actually and did not remember it being so bad. It was crippling.
 
Does anyone know where I can get growler fills of Death and Taxes in SF? Is that a pipe dream? Why can't we have Oregon growler laws?
 
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