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Not sure if this is the right forum for my question but are there any Bottle Logic bottles currently available in any San Francisco beer stores for purchase to go? I will be there in a couple of weeks. Cheers.
The BL Saison is around, and a few other BL shelfies. Whole Foods gets them from time to time.
 
Toronado Anniversary this Saturday! We'll have Sante Adairus West Ashley on draft, a vintage Cable Car on draft (and some vintage bottles), a limited number of Toronado 25th Anniversary bottles, Beechwood Mocha Machine, a vintage keg from Rare Barrel, Rodenbach Alexander, Societe Coachmen, Cellarmaker Coffee and Cigarettes, Cascade Elderberry and more. And BBQ from Slow Hand at some point. See you then!
 
Cascade Elderberry

An unforgettable beer.


I won't say much today. This beer, and the lovers of it, speak for themselves.


Oregon's head honcho of sour beer has done it again.

First, he transformed the craft beer industry with his sour beer base recipe. Now, he's added a rarely-used berry and significant barrel aging to create a Wild Ale in a class all it's own.


Find out how you can add this A-list 750ml bottle to your cellar today before they sell out... again.


Here's the story:


We have to travel all the back to the year 2014 for the last time this slowly-aged ale graced the shelves of our "Most Preferred" section.


Without much hype or hardly a mention of it, we sold through every bottle we could get our hands on. And those bottles have run bone dry for nearly two years.

Once you know this beer, it's not hard to see why.

You could have searched the inter webs high and wide and you wouldn't have found a bottle anywhere.

Fellow beer lover, Joe H., called it "The best, most balanced sour out of some of the best sours out there. Fantastic."

And Joe's not alone.

Again, you'll see why in a moment.

This particular sour beer is made with a unique fruit, rarely used by the sour brewing community.

Not strawberry... Not blueberry... Not raspberry... Not even blackberry...


Cascade's marvelous concoction, that takes an almost-unheard-of two years... or more... to age inside red wine barrels, is the little known...

*** Elderberry Sour Ale ***


Elderberries are tapioca pearl-sized wild purple berries that grow in clusters. Picture a micro-blueberry.

Most people have no idea what this obscure fruit tastes like. That's because, unlike most berries, Elderberries are not eaten raw.


Their flavor profile comes forward when warmed and turned into syrups, jellies and liqueurs.


Elderberries also have a much more tart quality than most berries.

Fortunately for us sour beer heads, that tart acidic-ness makes the Elderberry a perfect pairing to a funky wild ale.

But Elderberries alone are not what makes this Northwest Style American Wild Ale so special...

The Cascade Barrel House, an unparalleled producer of fine Wild Ales, does not simply throw a hodgepodge of berries and beer together and call it good.

Not even close.


They know that the highest-end sour beers must go through a long period of proper barrel-aging. No shortcuts for Cascade. A year inside wine barrels is typically the minimum.

But for this particular Elderberry recipe, they had to take things to another level.

One year in the barrel wasn't long enough.

Two years in the barrel wasn't even long enough.

The final blend of Elderberry 2015 is a series of red ales aged inside red wine barrels for a whopping 25 months! With dried Elderberries of course.

The resulting ale is incredible.

If there was ever a complaint about Cascade's beers, it's that they're simple and can lack complexity.


Not the case here.


Elderberry is one of Cascade's most complex in their entire lineup of sours.

It captures flavors of dark dried fruits, leather, red wine, chocolate, earth and plums.

No wonder sour beer critics absolutely love it.

Here's just a hint of the praise people are throwing at previous vintages of Cascade's Elderberry Ale:

"This was Intense, and only got more intense over time. Also delicious."


"Of fruit flavored sours, this may be my favorite choice of fruit and flower. Medium bodied with moderate carb and a slick finish. I like this beer, I like this beer a lot."


And on and on...


An Untappd reviewer had this to say specifically about the just-bottled 2015 Vintage:

"Much more balanced in acidity than previous vintages, elderberries are more distinguishable and super tastey"


What else could you want?

Elderberry is clearly a sour ale many, ourselves included, have fallen in love with. It stands tall among a hoard of other sour beers for it's unique, dark and complex flavors, its color and aroma.


I'm writing you now because Cascade just finished bottling and corking their Elderberry 2015 Vintage and have delivered a small allocation to our store.

Two weeks ago, we pre-sold more than half the cases. And it's not unusual for a couple customers to come in and buy these high-end sours 6 or 12 bottles at a time, depleting our supply very quick.

And we're never sure whether Cascade will deliver more bottles to us in the future.

So if you're looking to have a few 750 ml bottles of Elderberry on hand for the next year or two, today is your chance.


We hate to spoil a tasting experience for anyone, but here's a bit of what you can expect when you pour Elderberry.

In an 8 oz snifter, Elderberry is a glistening dark magenta. A color we haven't seen in any other beer.

The aroma leads to much anticipation and a bit of mouthwatering as intense fruit flavors and that Cascade funk we love so much enter the nose. On close inspection, hints of oak and musk are present.

A medium dose of carbonation seems to fit perfect and the sour puckering is so pleasant bringing the beer alive in your mouth.

Elderberry even poured to rave reviews from a couple "newbs" in our party. It wasn't met with the same wall of resistance we're used to when introducing sours to those who are "uninitiated".

If you're looking for a sour that's unique among it's peers and only comes around once every couple of years...

Go here now to reserve your 750 ml bottles of Elderberry 2015 Vintage.
 
An unforgettable beer.


I won't say much today. This beer, and the lovers of it, speak for themselves.


Oregon's head honcho of sour beer has done it again.

First, he transformed the craft beer industry with his sour beer base recipe. Now, he's added a rarely-used berry and significant barrel aging to create a Wild Ale in a class all it's own.


Find out how you can add this A-list 750ml bottle to your cellar today before they sell out... again.


Here's the story:


We have to travel all the back to the year 2014 for the last time this slowly-aged ale graced the shelves of our "Most Preferred" section.


Without much hype or hardly a mention of it, we sold through every bottle we could get our hands on. And those bottles have run bone dry for nearly two years.

Once you know this beer, it's not hard to see why.

You could have searched the inter webs high and wide and you wouldn't have found a bottle anywhere.

Fellow beer lover, Joe H., called it "The best, most balanced sour out of some of the best sours out there. Fantastic."

And Joe's not alone.

Again, you'll see why in a moment.

This particular sour beer is made with a unique fruit, rarely used by the sour brewing community.

Not strawberry... Not blueberry... Not raspberry... Not even blackberry...


Cascade's marvelous concoction, that takes an almost-unheard-of two years... or more... to age inside red wine barrels, is the little known...

*** Elderberry Sour Ale ***


Elderberries are tapioca pearl-sized wild purple berries that grow in clusters. Picture a micro-blueberry.

Most people have no idea what this obscure fruit tastes like. That's because, unlike most berries, Elderberries are not eaten raw.


Their flavor profile comes forward when warmed and turned into syrups, jellies and liqueurs.


Elderberries also have a much more tart quality than most berries.

Fortunately for us sour beer heads, that tart acidic-ness makes the Elderberry a perfect pairing to a funky wild ale.

But Elderberries alone are not what makes this Northwest Style American Wild Ale so special...

The Cascade Barrel House, an unparalleled producer of fine Wild Ales, does not simply throw a hodgepodge of berries and beer together and call it good.

Not even close.


They know that the highest-end sour beers must go through a long period of proper barrel-aging. No shortcuts for Cascade. A year inside wine barrels is typically the minimum.

But for this particular Elderberry recipe, they had to take things to another level.

One year in the barrel wasn't long enough.

Two years in the barrel wasn't even long enough.

The final blend of Elderberry 2015 is a series of red ales aged inside red wine barrels for a whopping 25 months! With dried Elderberries of course.

The resulting ale is incredible.

If there was ever a complaint about Cascade's beers, it's that they're simple and can lack complexity.


Not the case here.


Elderberry is one of Cascade's most complex in their entire lineup of sours.

It captures flavors of dark dried fruits, leather, red wine, chocolate, earth and plums.

No wonder sour beer critics absolutely love it.

Here's just a hint of the praise people are throwing at previous vintages of Cascade's Elderberry Ale:

"This was Intense, and only got more intense over time. Also delicious."


"Of fruit flavored sours, this may be my favorite choice of fruit and flower. Medium bodied with moderate carb and a slick finish. I like this beer, I like this beer a lot."


And on and on...


An Untappd reviewer had this to say specifically about the just-bottled 2015 Vintage:

"Much more balanced in acidity than previous vintages, elderberries are more distinguishable and super tastey"


What else could you want?

Elderberry is clearly a sour ale many, ourselves included, have fallen in love with. It stands tall among a hoard of other sour beers for it's unique, dark and complex flavors, its color and aroma.


I'm writing you now because Cascade just finished bottling and corking their Elderberry 2015 Vintage and have delivered a small allocation to our store.

Two weeks ago, we pre-sold more than half the cases. And it's not unusual for a couple customers to come in and buy these high-end sours 6 or 12 bottles at a time, depleting our supply very quick.

And we're never sure whether Cascade will deliver more bottles to us in the future.

So if you're looking to have a few 750 ml bottles of Elderberry on hand for the next year or two, today is your chance.


We hate to spoil a tasting experience for anyone, but here's a bit of what you can expect when you pour Elderberry.

In an 8 oz snifter, Elderberry is a glistening dark magenta. A color we haven't seen in any other beer.

The aroma leads to much anticipation and a bit of mouthwatering as intense fruit flavors and that Cascade funk we love so much enter the nose. On close inspection, hints of oak and musk are present.

A medium dose of carbonation seems to fit perfect and the sour puckering is so pleasant bringing the beer alive in your mouth.

Elderberry even poured to rave reviews from a couple "newbs" in our party. It wasn't met with the same wall of resistance we're used to when introducing sours to those who are "uninitiated".

If you're looking for a sour that's unique among it's peers and only comes around once every couple of years...

Go here now to reserve your 750 ml bottles of Elderberry 2015 Vintage.

Bring on the Words
 
No Jerks Night@ Temescal:
JOIN US THURS 8/25, 6-8PM FOR OUR FIRST EVER NO JERKS NIGHT
Hey No Jerks Beer Club Members!

Ahhh, how time flies. Can you believe we've already been open for two months? And that we haven't yet had you over for a proper drinking sesh??

Let's fix that.

Next Thursday, and the final Thursday of every month, please join us at the brewery for No Jerks Night: a chill, jerk-free evening for us all to hang out and get to know each other.

We'll be open for regular 4-10pm service, so you can come anytime, and non club members are of course welcome. But on No Jerks Nights, from 6pm-8pm, we'll make a point to do something special just for you!

We'll see you next Thursday. Be sure to wear your pin!

Love,
Team Temescal
 
No Jerks Night@ Temescal:
JOIN US THURS 8/25, 6-8PM FOR OUR FIRST EVER NO JERKS NIGHT
Hey No Jerks Beer Club Members!

Ahhh, how time flies. Can you believe we've already been open for two months? And that we haven't yet had you over for a proper drinking sesh??

Let's fix that.

Next Thursday, and the final Thursday of every month, please join us at the brewery for No Jerks Night: a chill, jerk-free evening for us all to hang out and get to know each other.

We'll be open for regular 4-10pm service, so you can come anytime, and non club members are of course welcome. But on No Jerks Nights, from 6pm-8pm, we'll make a point to do something special just for you!

We'll see you next Thursday. Be sure to wear your pin!

Love,
Team Temescal

****! Rules me out. Will be there for ******* Wednesday.


tosh you in for **** Tuesday or Bellend Sunday?
 
I was so excited about Temescal because of Wade, but they have mostly been rubbing against my fur so far....

Minor annoyances mostly, and I forgive Modern Times for their obnoxious copy so I have to extend that courtesy to Temescal as well. Most important thing is good beer. Still haven't been blown away but have also only been able to try two kegs that made their way north.

Biggest problem is that i'm not terribly fond of crowd sourcing and exclusive beer clubs that are all the rage now... but at least you usually get some nice bottles of beer for putting up your money. I'm not overjoyed at the precedent being set here that now you can sell memberships that only come with swag, growler privileges and the right to buy beer later....

On the bright side it made this one an easy pass....?

Genuinely curious what special privilege the "no jerks" will get. Exclusive taps or something?

Look at me, i'm unusually salty this evening.
 
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I was so excited about Temescal because of Wade, but they have mostly been rubbing against my fur so far....

Minor annoyances mostly, and I forgive Modern Times for their obnoxious copy so I have to extend that courtesy to Temescal as well. Most important thing is good beer. Still haven't been blown away but have also only been able to try two kegs that made their way north.

Biggest problem is that i'm not terribly fond of crowd sourcing and exclusive beer clubs that are all the rage now... but at least you usually get some nice bottles of beer for putting up your money. I'm not overjoyed at the precedent being set here that now you can sell memberships that only come with swag, growler privileges and the right to buy beer later....

On the bright side it made this one an easy pass....?

Genuinely curious what special privilege the "no jerks" will get. Exclusive taps or something?

Look at me, i'm unusually salty this evening.
Temescal's copy is way less annoying than Modem Tones. "No Jerks Allowed" is a dumb name, but MT's makes me hope the whole place gets hit by a ******* meteor.

Anyway, they've made a few legitimately great beers and no clunkers, if they dial it in I think it'll be a great spot.
 
Temescal's copy is way less annoying than Modem Tones. "No Jerks Allowed" is a dumb name, but MT's makes me hope the whole place gets hit by a ******* meteor.

No need to parse it as far as I am concerned, I have already said that I don't like either but can forgive bad copy for good beer.

Anyway, they've made a few legitimately great beers and no clunkers, if they dial it in I think it'll be a great spot.

Nothing would make me happier than more great beer in the bay.


I don't have it in for these guys and even started a thread on the other site about how excited I was about the beer....stand by my skepticism about crowd sourcing along with my criticism of beer futures programs that do not include any beer.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
I don't have it in for these guys and even started a thread on the other site about how excited I was about the beer....stand by my skepticism about crowd sourcing along with my criticism of beer futures programs that do not include any beer.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The club comes with 6 growler fills, so you're wrong (~$110-120 value). There, happy now?
 
We hit up Temescal for the first time on Sunday. Cool spot! Kinda felt like an ice cream parlor inside. I thought every beer was at least solid, but didn't love anything enough to get a growler. ALS was my favorite. That doesn't sound right...
 
What was the deal with Modern Times? I seemed to have miss that beer drama.
My deal with them started because, to make it short, founder is either an idiot or liar, but that was a long time ago, so long that it was on BA. Now it's mostly that I don't care for their beer and their copy makes me hope they all get hit by a meteor.
 
My deal with them started because, to make it short, founder is either an idiot or liar, but that was a long time ago, so long that it was on BA. Now it's mostly that I don't care for their beer and their copy makes me hope they all get hit by a meteor.
Okay, I'm an idiot, what is a "copy" in this context?
 
"Copy is a content primarily used for the purpose of advertising or marketing. This type of written material is often used to persuade a person or group as well as to raise brand awareness." lazy-ass-wiki-source

In the case of MT they use an exaggerated bill-and-ted tone in all their marketing.
Examples from random email I grabbed:
-SUCH RADNESS, MUCH WOW!
-a glorious abundance of rarities, one-offs, and general bomb-tasticness.
-We ask your helping in kicking these gnarly kegs.


I'ts obnoxious as is their top of the market pricing. I overlook both because I enjoy their beer.
...Strangely, the last email was noticeably toned down in that dept. Not sure if coincidence or intentional.
 
"Copy is a content primarily used for the purpose of advertising or marketing. This type of written material is often used to persuade a person or group as well as to raise brand awareness." lazy-ass-wiki-source

In the case of MT they use an exaggerated bill-and-ted tone in all their marketing.
Examples from random email I grabbed:
-SUCH RADNESS, MUCH WOW!
-a glorious abundance of rarities, one-offs, and general bomb-tasticness.
-We ask your helping in kicking these gnarly kegs.


I'ts obnoxious as is their top of the market pricing. I overlook both because I enjoy their beer.
...Strangely, the last email was noticeably toned down in that dept. Not sure if coincidence or intentional.
Got it.

I learned something new today.
 
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