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ZomBob

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Hey all,

I just started making cider and wanted to say a few things about my first batch and had a few questions of how to proceed.

I started off with 5 gallons of pasteurized cider from a local orchard and used the one gallon starter technique. I drained about a glass of cider out of one of the gallons and let it warm up to room temp, then pitched my yeast and left it go for a few hours. I used the Brewer's Best Premium Cider House yeast packet from LHS. These little guys wasted no time in getting to work. The next day I let all the cider warm up to room temp and dumped them into a five gallon carboy. Pretty uneventful "brew day" to say the least.

The yeast started chugging away in about 12 hours. I let it ferment in my basement which stays a constant 65*F and had great luck and furious fermentation for almost a full week. Once it slowed significantly I left it alone to clear a bit.

Flash Forward 3 weeks. I just transferred the much clearer and great smelling cider to a secondary. I boiled a little water and added K-meta and K-sorb to kill fermentation, added to secondary and racked on top of it. I also took a FG reading which came in just under 1.000 (let's say .999). With an OG of 1.050 it looks like I'm about 6.5% ABV. I also sampled the cider i drew for gravity readings. It smells great, really clear with almost no apple flavor whatsoever. I'd call it a wine but its not flavorful enough to be in that class of beverage. Also it doesn't taste too "hot" which I'm pretty happy about.

So now my questions: I want to backsweeten this with some Frozen Aj concentrate and keg it up. I think it will be pretty clear in 2-3 days and I have 2 tubes of FAJC in the freezer as we speak. Is this too much/not enough? I want some of the apple flavor back in it and I'd like to sweeten it up a bit like Magner's or other commercially available ciders. I like it dry but think it will be more palatable with some sweet back in it.

I guess my second question is this: Does anyone see where I made any glaring mistakes that I can learn from going forward? Anything I did that I don't need to do in the future?

All in all this has been a great experiment and, if it turns out well, will only be due to the knowledge I've learned from this forum. You guys/gals are great.:mug:
 
I would reccomend using the FAJC that has no added sugars ,...some list added corn syrup in the ingredients and based on past cider experiments added corn syrup seems to change the flavor in the end result. I just bottled a little under 5 gallons of cider using 3 cans of FAJC to carb and that brought the sweetness and flavor up to where I wanted it , but you may like it either sweeter or less sweet. You should get a general idea by adding like a can at a time , stir a little and taste , ...repeat until satisfied , knowing the taste and sweetness will change a little with time.
 
Since you have already stabilized your cider, using a/j concentrate will help the flavor right along with the sweetness helping the flavor as well. If possible, I suggest you get a few bottles from the keg, stash them somewhere for a few months, and see if there is a noticeable difference. Normally, there is.
 
Magners is about middle of the road as far as sweetness ... in 12oz cider: 19g carbs and 19g sugars (that is, all the carbs come from sweetening).

Some others ...
Crispin ... 12 sugars ... 18 carbohydrates
strongbow dry ... 12 sugars ... 12 carbohydrates
Hornsby ... 20 sugar ... 24 carbs
Angry Orchard Hard Cider (regular) ... 23 sugar ... 29 carb

Other info ...
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f32/questions-about-getting-right-flavor-389775/#post4899871
 
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