Apple brandy question

[GilaMinumBeer]

I have always been tolt it was not legal, If someone can point me to the law that makes it legal, then I'll join the party. But till then I'll buy my apple jack.

It is illeagal to those who define it as distillation. It is, however, not distillation by definition. Thus, it is legal by ommission so long as your local jurisdictions do not prohibit the home production of wine, cider, or beer.

For example, for years the Oklahoma laws provided for the home production of wine and cider but did not specifically include beer. Therefore, it has always been illeagal by exclusion until the powers that be amended the law to specifically include beer.

 

[lawpaw]

I just looked up the Minnesota statute and apparently it is not legal to make mead in MN without a license:

". 9.Unlicensed manufacture. Nothing in this chapter requires a license for the natural fermentation of fruit juices or brewing of beer in the home for family use."

Jacking would be explicitly legal in the winter if you put cider outside.

Distilling isn't defined in the statute.

Vegetable wines, like carrot wine, is also not technically legal.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I just looked up the Minnesota statute and apparently it is not legal to make mead in MN without a license:

". 9.Unlicensed manufacture. Nothing in this chapter requires a license for the natural fermentation of fruit juices or brewing of beer in the home for family use."

Jacking would be explicitly legal in the winter if you put cider outside.

Distilling isn't defined in the statute.

Vegetable wines, like carrot wine, is also not technically legal.

Ayup,

Our laws changed just this year and despite multiple revisions to get the approval through with the inclusion of transportation for events the lobbies still dropped the ball and omitted mead to ilegalisation.

37-520A
The Alcoholic Beverage Laws Enforcement Commission is authorized to issue, upon application of a person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older, an annual personal use permit which when granted authorizes the holder thereof to make, store, possess and transport for personal use, low-point beer as defined by Section 163.2 of this title, beer as defined by Section 506 of this title, fermented non-distilled ciders, and wine as defined by Section 506 of this title. The total volume of each authorized beverage made and possessed for personal use in a given calendar year shall be limited to a volume less than two hundred (200) gallons. The term “personal use” as used in this section and Sections 163.1 and 505 of Title 37 of the Oklahoma Statutes means the individual making beverages pursuant to a valid personal use permit issued by the Alcoholic Beverage Laws Enforcement Commission produces such beverages solely for his or her use and consumption, for consumption by his or her family and guests, and for transport to and use at organized affairs, exhibitions or competitions, included, but not limited to, homemaker contests, tastings or judging’s. No beverage made pursuant to a personal use permit shall be sold or offered for sale.

So, they amended the definition of wine to appease the lobbies.

40. “Wine” means and includes any beverage containing more than one-half of one
percent (1/2 of 1%) alcohol by volume and not more than twenty-four percent (24%) alcohol
by volume at sixty (60) degrees Fahrenheit obtained by the fermentation of the natural
contents of fruits, vegetables, honey, milk or other products containing sugar, whether or not​

other ingredients are added, and includes vermouth and sake, known as Japanese rice wine;

You will also note the 24% limit on alcohol content.

 

[lawpaw]

Wow, you guys need a personal use license.

Mead looks like it is in the definition of wine since it mentions honey as a fermentable.

Ours doesn't appear to allow transfer or distribution to judges for competition.

I must be missing something.

 

[anteup]

I'm am so sorry, I'm not a bery good tiper. I meant I was make hard cider with the intent of jacking-off. I didn't mean to start this legal uproar. By the my Bigbrother I live in Utah. ROFLMAO

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Wow, you guys need a personal use license.

Mead looks like it is in the definition of wine since it mentions honey as a fermentable.

Ours doesn't appear to allow transfer or distribution to judges for competition.

I must be missing something.

Ayup, it's free for now tho.

And, no, we can produce mead now. But only after some legal persuasions.

 

[lawpaw]

Are we making fuel again?

 

[Yuri_Rage]

This thread has gone wildly off topic.

We allow discussions of freeze concentration. We do not allow any discussion of distillation by heat (or vacuum).

 

[Yuri_Rage]

This thread has gone wildly off topic. Please keep it on track.

We allow discussions of freeze concentration. We do not allow any discussion of distillation by heat (or vacuum).

 

[cdubbaya]

But till then I'll buy my apple jack.

Freaking love Apple Jacks! Sometimes I pour a big bowl and wait for a few minutes until the milk gets soaked up a bit so I can drink the apple cinnamon goodness after I eat it all... wait, what are we talking about?

 

[lawpaw]

Freaking love Apple Jacks! Sometimes I pour a big bowl and wait for a few minutes until the milk gets soaked up a bit so I can drink the apple cinnamon goodness after I eat it all... wait, what are we talking about?

I like to freeze the milk after I'm finished to really concentrate the flavors.

Are webcam on topic yet?

How about this, what is the actual volume of Applejack to expect from 1-5 gallons of 12% cider assuming you don't want straight fuel?

 

[Yuri_Rage]

How about we just close this one.