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never met a saranac brew that I liked, unfortunately. two from the variety pack were even dumpers. it could have been mistreated, I suppose' but i'm done with saranac :(
 
I'm not a big Middle Ages fan. Went to a tasting of their stuff and it all seemed overcarbonated and had the same overpowering ringwood taste. It's not bad in one beer, maybe, but after a while everything starts to taste the same (and I'm not a big 'yeast profile' guy).

At the Buffalo Brewfest this year I met the guy from Empire Brewing in Syracuse, and they seem like they have their stuff together. The Empire brown was Beer-O-Vision's (unofficial) best in show.
 
So.. to follow up.. I went to the Dinosaur and it was freaking awesome. KILLER ribs and great beer selection! I brought a few beers back to Arizona, of the Middle Ages multipack, I only really liked the IPA. The Porter wasn't bad, but nothing special really.

I did try the Saranac Black Forest when I went to the Colorado Mining Company for dinner on Sunday. It was way better then their Pale, not a killer beer... but much better IMO.

I would have liked to try Empire, but I didn't have time to track them down. Same with the Tusk, I didn't have time to go there either unfortunately. Still, I was there for work but I did get to eat good and have some local beers. Does a work trip get much better then that?
 
Saranac is more about the place....as a Pennsylvanian (where you can't get six packs at a reasonable price) Saranac evokes *fond* memories of camping in the Adirondacks (Indian Lake) every summer of my life and, since old enough to buy beer, getting sixers at the (YES!) gas station in town and drinking them by a fire under the stars. And swimming in the dark after throwing back a few! In that setting, you couldn't ask for a better beer.
 
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