Any way for homebrewers to get their hands on bsi brett drei?

[gregkeller]

So, back before wlp644 was outed as a sach strain, I had done a little bit of playing around with it and thought it was ok. I had always thought it was this elusive strain of brett that had been isolated from Drie Fontainin. Is seems like BSI is the only yeast company that is selling this strain and only offering it to pro brewers in 1 barrel pitches. I'd like to play around with this strain, and was wondering if anyone had a line on how the homebrewer can get their hands on a sample of this.

 

[RPh_Guy]

I had always thought it was this elusive strain of brett that had been isolated from Drie Fontainin.

As far as I know, 644 was isolated from 3 Fonteinen.

In my very limited experience, 644 is a great strain and plays nicely as a primary with other Brett strains.

Is seems like BSI is the only yeast company that is selling this strain and only offering it to pro brewers in 1 barrel pitches. I'd like to play around with this strain, and was wondering if anyone had a line on how the homebrewer can get their hands on a sample of this.

WLP648 seems to be what you want.
See the note here:
http://www.milkthefunk.com/wiki/Brettanomyces#White_Labs

Keep in mind breweries like 3 Fonteinen are not using single strains. Because of blending they probably have hundreds or thousands of strains contributing flavor in each bottle.

Cheers

 

[gregkeller]

Yeah I've been happy with all my 644 beers that I've done. Just wanted to play around with this strain that seems to be kind of elusive on the homebrew front.

I understand that 3 fonteinen is going to have a mixed culture. The brett drie that BSI sells was a single strain isolated from this mixed culture. Chad Yakobsen found that it was one of the few brett strains that could actually be a good primary fermenter whereas lots of brett "pure cultures" sold by yeast companies are actually contaminated with Sacc.

I read something here (https://suigenerisbrewing.blogspot.com/2017/05/to-vrai-or-not-to-vrai-another-white.html) and here (http://www.alesoftheriverwards.com/2015/12/brettanomyces-drei-vs-brettanomyces-vrai.html) that wlp648 is actually two strains of brett (not sure if one of them is actually the same as BSI's Brett Drie or not)

 

[RPh_Guy]

Just wanted to play around with this strain that seems to be kind of elusive on the homebrew front.

Is any commercially-produced culture really "elusive"?

You could probably find some truly unique strains in your own backyard if you want
Belgium doesn't have a monopoly on Brettanomyces. Just saying.