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I guess I am one of the few that agree with the decision in the Machida fight. While I agree that Rua may have won the FIGHT, he didnt win the TITLE. I believe he beat Machida, but he in no way beat the champion.

Unfortunately, this same rationale and logic applies to the Vera/Couture fight this weekend. My jaw too hit the floor when they announced Randy as the winner, but at the same time, I can see how they might have judged it that way.
(Yes it still pisses me off)
-Me
 
I guess I am one of the few that agree with the decision in the Machida fight. While I agree that Rua may have won the FIGHT, he didnt win the TITLE. I believe he beat Machida, but he in no way beat the champion.

Unfortunately, this same rationale and logic applies to the Vera/Couture fight this weekend. My jaw too hit the floor when they announced Randy as the winner, but at the same time, I can see how they might have judged it that way.
(Yes it still pisses me off)
-Me

The idea that "you have to beat the champ to be the champ" is a little ridiculous. Machida has the belt. Rua fought a better fight, did more damage and overall won that fight. If the challenger beats the guy with the belt, he's the champ period. I don't care if its a close fight or if machida was never rocked. it doesn't have to be convincing you just have to win.

Let's say the steelers go to the superbowl again this year. Does the other team have to beat them by 10 to win? No. It only takes 1.


Agreed on the vera coture thing. clearly the judges on saturday decided control was worth more in a fight than damage.
 
I guess I am one of the few that agree with the decision in the Machida fight. While I agree that Rua may have won the FIGHT, he didnt win the TITLE. I believe he beat Machida, but he in no way beat the champion.

Unfortunately, this same rationale and logic applies to the Vera/Couture fight this weekend. My jaw too hit the floor when they announced Randy as the winner, but at the same time, I can see how they might have judged it that way.
(Yes it still pisses me off)
-Me
I'd agree with you if Machida had fought like a champ. That's right: I went there.
 
I'd agree with you if Machida had fought like a champ. That's right: I went there.

Touche!

And yet another point I agree on as well.
Im so glad Im not a judge...

Yes, Machida got lucky in that fight and Im sure he knows it. Id be willing to bet my next batch that he wont be so lucky with a performance like that again.
They were BOTH guilty of fighting not to lose and doing 'just enough'. Machida just happened to be the lucky one that day.

Which is what pisses me off to no end about the Vera/Couture fight. Vera fought to win, Randy didnt...
-Me
 
When Randy got that nasty leg kick to the side of his body I thought the fight was going to be over. Vera has some unbelivable kicks. I like Couture but the only thing I saw him win was "octagon control" I guess. He did pin Vera up and did some dirty boxing but I thought Vera landed the more devastating blows..I mean to go down from that kick..Even Randy said it hurt bad. I think this was the case where he got the win because of a legacy thing and maybe not because of the fight..I'm wondering if they want Randy to face Machida? I guess he needs to win a few more to decide that. How about Hardy and Swick. I don't particularly like Hardy but he did have some nice elbows and fought a good fight. I just can't picture him being in the same league as GSP though. I like when Joe or Mike said something like "I would lose on purpose not to fight GSP"..I was thinking the same thing..lol.
 
They were BOTH guilty of fighting not to lose and doing 'just enough'. Machida just happened to be the lucky one that day.

This is the problem with Machida's style. If you come at him like so many people have done, you lose. If you stand back and try to counter him, you get a long drawn out fight.

Looks like Lesnar is out for a while, seems he is pretty sick.

mononucleosis.
 
Touche!

And yet another point I agree on as well.
Im so glad Im not a judge...

Yes, Machida got lucky in that fight and Im sure he knows it. Id be willing to bet my next batch that he wont be so lucky with a performance like that again.
They were BOTH guilty of fighting not to lose and doing 'just enough'. Machida just happened to be the lucky one that day.

Which is what pisses me off to no end about the Vera/Couture fight. Vera fought to win, Randy didnt...
-Me
I watched the 105 replay last and didn't even bother to watch the Couture-Vera fight, and I am a huge Couture fan.
 
Havent replied to this thread in a while. Yeah i thought Machida lost and i'm a huge Machida fan (been a fan since the Soko fight), regarding 105 it didnt have any HUGE fights but there was some exciting fights. Was impressed with Matt Brown.

Cotto / Pac made up for it though.
 
Word on some websites is that Brock was doing roids and his body is taking longer to repair itself than normal because of that. There is, of course, no proof or serious consideration to this.
 
Word on some websites is that Brock was doing roids and his body is taking longer to repair itself than normal because of that. There is, of course, no proof or serious consideration to this.


When I first heard he came over from WWE and then saw the size of the guy I thought he was definitely on roids. I'm not sure if he's been on them since he started the UFC but more than likely he's taken his share in his day. You have to think it would effect your cardio but most of the heavyweight fights dont make it out of the first round so I guess this isn't an issue?
 
I tried getting tickets for it and apparantely all the "cheap" seats sold out. The seats were only $50 which I thought was decent. Now if you go on craigslist or stubhub they want $150 for the same nose bleed seat. I know the UFC doesn't come to the tri-state area that often (Still illegal in NY) but 3 times the price..Thats crazy..Anyone going?
 
I tried getting tickets for it and apparantely all the "cheap" seats sold out. The seats were only $50 which I thought was decent. Now if you go on craigslist or stubhub they want $150 for the same nose bleed seat. I know the UFC doesn't come to the tri-state area that often (Still illegal in NY) but 3 times the price..Thats crazy..Anyone going?

Nope. Best seat in the whole damn place is in my own house, drinking my own beer and hanging out with friends. Especially for nose bleed seating...

I pay $44 for ring side seats... and Tivo to rewind those "HOLY $#!7" moments.

:D
 
I tried getting tickets for the one that was held in Chicago, and it was mostly sold out with the exception of the really expensive tickets. I didn't even bother looking on stubhub.

I went to the Strikeforce one that was outside of Chicago. It was pretty interesting to be at a live event, aside from the $9 beers that is. But I'd have to agree with mmb, the best seats are at home, with the ability to re-wind the action.
 
If you're going to go see one live, go to Vegas; you'll have a great time and most likely meet a bunch of the fighters. Then afterward you can gamble or drink or go see Penn and Teller.
 
+1 to the Vegas trip suggestion, and having worked for smaller shows and having killer seats - Id much rather sit at home and enjoy the show with my DVR and multiple camera angles.

Dont get me wrong, live shows are the **** but you usually find yourself looking at the big screen to see what happened when a fight has ended.
 
A couple years ago I bought some tickets to the UFC event in Columbus, Oh....I got the floor seats for like $400 a ticket, the turned around and ebay'd them for about $600. Watched that one at home :D.

But the next year I ended up getting some decent priced tickets (around 100) and went to that show. Had a hell of a time. Although 10 dollar Bud Lights kinda rubbed me the wrong way lol.....all in all I try to either goto BW3's and catch every event, or get the PPV. Although between my beer budget and UFC PPV budget the SWMBO ain't too pleased, so it looks like the UFC budget is gonna get shrunk here soon. I actually have been getting more into the Japanese fights they broadcast like from HDNET. I mean where else can you see Jose Canseco vs. Hong Man Choi and Gegard Mousasi vs. Mark Hunt on the same card? Crazy over there....

BTW - JoeMama you got the fighter pose going on in your avatar. :rockin:
 
anderson silva is the man. watch out for a guy name feydor emilianenkovich. he should be coming into the UFC soon. he is bad to the bone. Lesnar is a ***. Chuck Lidell is god!
 
That or Dana pulls his head out of his ass and lets Fedor fight ***** back home. It's been reported that is the big stumbling block to getting Fedor in the octagon.
 
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