Amarillo Hop Dust

[HollisBT]

You people crack me up. Often at the bottom of my 1lb bags of hops (no matter the supplier), there is at least an ounce of hop dust. You know what I do with it? I use it. I treat it as an ounce of hops.

I doubt it has questionable alpha content. It's probably smack in the middle of Amarillo's alpha range. As I said earlier in this thread: Is hop dust an inferior product to hop pellets, yes probably. Whether it's perception or reality, it is the 'left overs'. But give the ridiculous negativity a break. Mouse turds? Really?

So suddenly there is no difference between pelletized hops that got smashed and the leftover waste from the hop warehouse floor?

I personally don't think it is "ridiculous negativity", but so goes the saying about a fool and his money.

 

[Jayhem]

Your going to have to steal the plants/ rhizomes, order wet hops and try to root a vine with a growth tip, of wait a long time for the patents to end.

stealing hop plants sounds exciting. lol.

 

[scottland]

When you buy a pound of pellet hops you should be able to assume that they haven't been laying on the floor.

You do realize that all hops are swept/shoveled off the floor?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_fDQGV-svp...ops+cooling+on+kiln+floor+August+28,+2008.jpg

 

[scottland]

So suddenly there is no difference between pelletized hops that got smashed and the leftover waste from the hop warehouse floor?

I personally don't think it is "ridiculous negativity", but so goes the saying about a fool and his money.

Not terribly. All hop pellets start life as whole hops.

Those whole hops get pulverized into hop dust. Most of that hop dust gets compressed into pellets. This is most likely some left over hop dust that didn't. I really won't look at it any more differently than pellet hops.

I think people have some misconceptions about how hops are made, and how clean the hops they get are.

 

[Jayhem]

My concern with hop dust is that hops lose aroma quickly when exposed to the air. Once compressed into pellets most of that aroma is retained but in dust form just laying in a vat much would be lost, especially if it's days or weeks before this dust is collected.

 

[scottland]

If you guys are so concerned over the quality of the product, why not email the vendor. He either knows how the hop dust was obtained/packaged, or he can find out.

Making assumptions on a forum isn't the road to straight answers.

 

[Frige]

But its a lot more fun.

 

[bottlebomber]

Yes, the harvest this year was minimal, but I would find a more legit way of salvaging my forecasted brews... Like trying a different varietal of hops.

Also, you wanted cheap Amarillo hops, I can find no reason anyone would legitimately need them.

Best of luck with the fairy dust, And I am genuinely curious to see people's results with it. I could see dry hopping with it or perhaps for a <5 minute addition, but don't think I would brew with something of questionable alpha content.

By your logic I don't see how anyone even NEEDS beer. In my opinion anyone who bitters with Amarillo is foolish.

 

[HollisBT]

By your logic I don't see how anyone even NEEDS beer. In my opinion anyone who bitters with Amarillo is foolish.

Correct, maybe some people should learn the difference between needs and wants...

And everyone is entitled to their opinion, that doesn't mean they are right.

 

[sweetcell]

I doubt it has questionable alpha content. It's probably smack in the middle of Amarillo's alpha range.

methinks that the dust would have higher AA% than hop pellets and flowers since there is a higher proportion of lupelin glands in the dust and less vegetal matter. i say this based on the dust at the bottom of my pound bags.

 

[bja]

methinks that the dust would have higher AA% than hop pellets and flowers since there is a higher proportion of lupelin glands in the dust and less vegetal matter. i say this based on the dust at the bottom of my pound bags.

Did you count the lupelin glands in the dust?

 

[bobbrews]

I doubt it has questionable alpha content. It's probably smack in the middle of Amarillo's alpha range.

We won't know unless we call up, because the supplier did not disclose that information. Even then, he will probably say, "Well the batch was 9.2% aa at harvest" and not give you a concrete answer about the dust aa%. But I would make and educated guess that it is lower than the aa% in the original hops; probably by a point or three.

 

[sweetcell]

Did you count the lupelin glands in the dust?

didn't need to, i could see them. the glands get knocked off the leaves and fall as dust at the bottom of the bag.

related: i was listening to an old episode of the Jamil Show, and jamil was saying this is the reason he prefers pellets to whole cones - pellets are more consistent.

 

[Hammy71]

Amarillo is scarce....Sounds like we've resorted to the junkie looking for scraps of their chosen drug to get that last high. LOL. Just a joke, this stuff may be just fine, just couldn't resist the chance to express the picture that popped into my mind.

 

[bottlebomber]

methinks that the dust would have higher AA% than hop pellets and flowers since there is a higher proportion of lupelin glands in the dust and less vegetal matter. i say this based on the dust at the bottom of my pound bags.

Man I used to love the bottom of a lb bag.. Good point

 

[JonGrafto]

Just for shiggles I picked up a bag. Didn't preorder any Amarillo but this will do.

 

[drchris83]

When you buy a pound of pellet hops you should be able to assume that they haven't been laying on the floor.

You don't know how long it was laying around the machine before they swept it up.

In this case I can only recommend you never visit a medium/large scale hop farm.

 

[TNGabe]

Man I used to love the bottom of a lb bag.. Good point

Ahh to be young again. That's just what I was thinking. Sounds like hop kif to me.

 

[JonGrafto]

Store says Out of Stock now....

 

[KayaBrew]

Store says Out of Stock now....

Something tells me this ridiculous thread will live on...

 

[bja]

Something tells me this ridiculous thread will live on...

If you keep posting, it will.

 

[KayaBrew]

If you keep posting, it will.

Have it your way then. Here you go!

 

[Whalewang]

Curious that they only have Amarillo dust for sale when they have not had Amarillo hops for sale yet this year. Logic dictates that the dust is a witches brew of all the hops that they have processed to date -- and that's a hefty price to pay for something you really don't know what your getting. I think that this Amarillo scarcity has thrown reason out the window and brewers will pay anything for what they hope is a good deal. Reminds me of dealers cutting their drugs at their customer's expense.

 

[Soup4you2]

Reminds me of dealers cutting their drugs at their customer's expense.

I can see it now, next week people posting that their Amarillo dust was cut with Centennial..

 

[scottland]

Curious that they only have Amarillo dust for sale when they have not had Amarillo hops for sale yet this year. Logic dictates that the dust is a witches brew of all the hops that they have processed to date -

Considering they don't pelletize hops, logic says the hop dust is from their supplier.

They were planning on getting Amarillo. Amarillo came up really short this year. My hunch is they got stiffed, and LD Carlson probably offered hop dust as a condolence. Jesus Christ people jump to the worst conclusions...

 

[Whalewang]

Considering they don't pelletize hops, logic says the hop dust is from their supplier.

They were planning on getting Amarillo. Amarillo came up really short this year. My hunch is they got stiffed, and LD Carlson probably offered hop dust as a condolence. Jesus Christ people jump to the worst conclusions...

This makes a lot of sense.

 

[TNGabe]

Curious that they only have Amarillo dust for sale when they have not had Amarillo hops for sale yet this year. Logic dictates that the dust is a witches brew of all the hops that they have processed to date -- and that's a hefty price to pay for something you really don't know what your getting. I think that this Amarillo scarcity has thrown reason out the window and brewers will pay anything for what they hope is a good deal. Reminds me of dealers cutting their drugs at their customer's expense.

One man's logic is another man's conspiracy theory.

How is the origin of this product any less certain than that of any pellet hop?

 

[sketerbuck]

The 2012 Amarillo hops came on the market last week. Your LHBS should be stocked up very soon. I just bought my supply for the year.

 

[Naturallight16oz]

FYI Freshops still has amarillo

Thanks, Just ordered some for alot cheaper than i've seen elsewhere. No dust for this guy.

 

[highgravitybacon]

Saw a homeless guy smoking half used butts out of an ashtray at the stadium the other day. I go, dude wtf? Nasty. He says, "whatever. At least I'm not drinking hop sawdust."