Alpine Spring Clone

[seckert]

looking forward to seeing how this came out for you when it is finished. This is a recipe that i am really wanting to make and i just got a fermentation chamber where i can lager so i am looking for something to put in it!

 

[shadows69]

I will be sure to post back. It will be another 6 weeks and that's rushing it.

 

[pascott6]

Here's what i came up with. I modified barhoc's 10 gal. recipe.
Let me know what you think.
5 gallon batch
8lb 8oz German 2 Row pils
8oz Honey Malt
5oz Munich Malt
3oz Cara Pils


1oz Tettnang @ 60 min 4.8%
.5 oz Tettnang @ 30 min 4.8%
.5 oz Tettnang @ 15 min 4.8%

Wyeast Kolsch yeast
6 SRM
30.7 IBU
75% Effencency

 

[shadows69]

Looks good what is your OG ? Color maybe a little light. Theres no way of telling until its brewed. Who knows it may come out better then Alpine Spring.

 

[pascott6]

OG is supposed to be 1.050
I can't wait to brew this.

 

[shadows69]

Keep us posted. One of us should get close to if not better at cloning this. I have two different ones going. Both of these are being lagered. Thinking of doing one with wlp400 yeast. Not sure yet jury is still out on that one.

 

[barhoc11]

Keep us posted. One of us should get close to if not better at cloning this. I have two different ones going. Both of these are being lagered. Thinking of doing one with wlp400 yeast. Not sure yet jury is still out on that one.

Everyone, please share back your results, now that I am able to drink Alpine Spring again I think we need to perfect this recipe!

 

[shadows69]

Pics too if you can. Hoping to score at least a six pack this weekend if not a case.

 

[shadows69]

Scored a case!! The side of the case says Wheat lager. I'm not tasting any munich malt. thinking to replace the munich with wheat. I don't think it needs to be dry hopped either. Head retention is low. I came up with the following:
Alpine Spring - Premium American Lager Version 3
Brewer shadows69
Date 02/02/2013

Batch Size 5.500 gal Boil Size 6.394 gal
Boil Time 60.000 min Efficiency 90%
OG 1.053 FG 1.014
ABV 5.1% Bitterness 18.0 IBU (Tinseth)
Color 7.0 srm (Morey) Calories (per 12 oz.) 175

Fermentables
Total grain: 8.709 lb

Briess - 2 Row Brewers Malt Grain 7.500 lb Yes No 80% 2.0 srm
Honey Malt Grain 8.000 oz Yes No 80% 25.0 srm
Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L Grain 6.350 oz Yes No 74% 60.0 srm
Briess - Wheat Malt, White Grain 5.000 oz Yes No 86% 2.6 srm

Hops
Tettnang 4.8% 0.250 oz Boil 30.000 min Pellet 2.9
Tettnang 4.8% 0.500 oz Boil 15.000 min Pellet 3.8
Tettnang 4.8% 0.750 oz Boil 60.000 min Pellet 11.4

Yeast
WLP800 - Pilsner Lager Yeast Lager Liquid 2.367 tbsp Primary
Lagering for me is over however i'm going to run a WLP051 version. This is a cream ale mix with lager.

 

[shadows69]

Mash in at about 150 F degrees.

 

[Joakgust]

Brewing this on saturday:

[size=+2]Recipe: Alpine Spring[/size]
Brewer: Seatown Brewing
Asst Brewer:
Style: Kölsch
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30,0)

Recipe Specifications

Batch Size: 18,93 l
Boil Size: 24,97 l
Estimated OG: 1,050 SG
Estimated Color: 8,9 EBC
Estimated IBU: 26,9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72,00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:

Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
3,00 kg               Pilsner (Weyermann) (3,3 EBC)            Grain         1        71,4 %        
0,50 kg               Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5,9 EBC)         Grain         2        11,9 %        
0,20 kg               Munich I (Weyermann) (14,0 EBC)          Grain         3        4,8 %         
0,15 kg               Viking Carapale (8,0 EBC)                Grain         4        3,6 %         
0,15 kg               Wheat, Torrified (3,3 EBC)               Grain         5        3,6 %         
0,10 kg               Cara-Pils/Dextrine (3,9 EBC)             Grain         6        2,4 %         
0,10 kg               Viking Melanoidmalt (70,0 EBC)           Grain         7        2,4 %         
10,00 g               Hallertauer Tradition [5,90 %] - First W Hop           8        8,2 IBUs      
10,00 g               Hallertauer Tradition [5,90 %] - Boil 60 Hop           9        7,0 IBUs      
10,00 g               Hallertauer Tradition [5,90 %] - Boil 25 Hop           10       4,8 IBUs      
15,00 g               Hallertauer Tradition [5,90 %] - Boil 15 Hop           11       5,2 IBUs      
15,00 g               Tettnang [4,50 %] - Boil 5,0 min         Hop           12       1,7 IBUs      
1,0 pkg               Kolsch Yeast (Wyeast Labs #2565) [124,21 Yeast         13       -             
30,00 g               Hallertauer Tradition [5,90 %] - Dry Hop Hop           14       0,0 IBUs      
10,00 g               Tettnang [4,50 %] - Dry Hop 7,0 Days     Hop           15       0,0 IBUs

 

[pascott6]

Was gonna try to brew this weekend but the snow is goona put a hold on that.

 

[smijo]

Probably going to brew this one next week. I don't have a cold enough place to use lager yeast, so should I go with the kolsch yeast or some San Francisco lager yeast?

 

[tre9er]

Probably going to brew this one next week. I don't have a cold enough place to use lager yeast, so should I go with the kolsch yeast or some San Francisco lager yeast?

SFL and use a swamp cooler with fan days 2-7.

 

[jtkratzer]

Anyone have results yet?

 

[Joakgust]

Will have results on Saturday. I intend to dry hop with tettnanger, will probably aim to go with around 50 g in 19 liters.

 

[smijo]

Not me, I decided to brew an Irish red today instead. I'm still interested to find out some results!

 

[shadows69]

Here's a teaser of Alpine spring version 2.0 lagered. Not on CO2 yet. Started on 1-22-13. Sorry got stuck doing house remodeling. More pics to come when it's on CO2!

 

[jdgapc]

Here's a teaser of Alpine spring version 2.0 lagered. Not on CO2 yet. Started on 1-22-13. Sorry got stuck doing house remodeling. More pics to come when it's on CO2!

Looks great, I might do a quick extract version for summer

 

[shadows69]

OK, as promised! Mine is a little darker and smother.

 

[shadows69]

Re-adjusted this should be much closer in color. Also only a 60 min boil needed as Alpine spring has a bite in the end.
Alpine Spring version 3 - Premium American Lager (1C)Brewer shadows69
Date 04/16/2013
Batch Size 5.500 gal Boil Size 6.394 gal
Boil Time 60.000 min Efficiency 90%
OG 1.052 FG 1.013
ABV 5.0% Bitterness 18.2 IBU (Tinseth)
Color 5.8 srm (Morey) Calories (per 12 oz.) 171
Fermentables
Total grain: 8.500 lbName Type Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
Briess - 2 Row Brewers Malt Grain 7.500 lb Yes No 80% 2.0 srm
Honey Malt Grain 8.000 oz Yes No 80% 25.0 srm
Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L Grain 3.000 oz Yes No 74% 60.0 srm
Briess - Wheat Malt, White Grain 5.000 oz Yes No 86% 2.6 srm
Hops
Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Tettnang 4.8% 0.250 oz Boil 30.000 min Pellet 2.9
Tettnang 4.8% 0.500 oz Boil 15.000 min Pellet 3.8
Tettnang 4.8% 0.750 oz Boil 60.000 min Pellet 11.5
Yeast
Name Type Form Amount Stage
WLP800 - Pilsner Lager Yeast Lager Liquid 2.367 tbsp Primary

 

[watersr]

Loved this beer so I attempted a clone. This is my recipe for a 6 gal batch

10 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
1 lbs 8.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM)
0.75 oz Tettnang [4.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 10 0.50 oz Tettnang [4.80 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 11
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.80 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 12
0.50 oz Tettnang [4.80 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 13
1.0 pkg Southern German Lager (White Labs #WLP83
1.00 oz Tettnang [4.80 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 15

The result is a bit heavier and sweeter than Alpine Spring. Also the hop character is very muted. My gravity was only a little higher that the SA website lists so I am wondering if the use some sugar to dry it. The honey malt I used was a bit too much, I'll scale back to about 3/4 lb next time and maybe make this beer a bit smaller.

I am thinking of adding cascades or centennial. I know it is not listed on thier website but I don't see how just tett is getting that citrusy character.Also, I want to bottle some of this up for a competition but I have no idea what style to call this. Most of the reviews I see call it a premium american lager but no way. It is too hi OG and way too sweet for that. My attempt has dropped fairly clear so what style should I enter this as?

 

[shadows69]

What yeast did you use? Also mash lower that should dry it out a little. There has to be something else in there that's not listed on the website to give it the citrus taste. Mine was close but to smooth. I am guessing its the yeast they use.

 

[watersr]

Based on the profile on SA website I went withsouthern german lager yeast wlp833. Maytry an american lager yeast next time. Good idea on the mash temps still dontknow what to call it.

 

[shadows69]

I would think its still a lager class even though it is sweet. I think you need to scale down the honey malt. Seem abit over kill to me. I generally never use more then 8oz because of the fact of it being so sweet. I assume you lagered yours for 8 weeks?

 

[BeachBumBrew]

Guys I'm a lil late to the convo but was looking for a few answers due to me being a new home brewer. As far as this tread goes some things say (row 2 malt) and I'm not sure what that means also I've only brewed with malt extract what is different about brewing with all grain? Thanks guys for your help

 

[byrone]

Alpine spring is one of my favorite beers and this will be my first AG batch and I'm really looking forward to brewing this. I have a question about the water to use. Is a certain profile being used as a reference point or just using a water profile suitable for the SRM? Any help would be awesome

 

[shadows69]

Beach bum....look up all grain and partial mesh brewing on this site. The answer to your question can be long winded and answered better there. Short answer from me is all gain means everything is brewed right from the crushed gain. Malt is a power or syrup. To me hands down all grain is the best tasting beer on can make.
byrone...i use home tap/filtered water. I assume if your water tastes good right from the tap, it would be fine for your beer as well. Since its your first ag you won't know till you brew.

 

[BeachBumBrew]

Thanks shadows69 ill deffenitly look that up also I use Poland spring when I brew that's ok right. I'm not missing anything that so-post to be in the water am I

 

[watersr]

As a general rule unless your water is particularly hard or soft it's probably ok to use straight. Using a charcoal filter or potassium metabisulfite would help if your municipality uses chloramines to sanitize ( most do these days). This beer is not very hoppy so if your water is high in sulfates which accentuate hop bitterness it would help to add calcium chloride. Check your city's water report for that info.