alcotec triple still

[thomas353]

i made a batch of coopers stout and i was very pleased with the results, now i am going to try and brew this triple still stuff, apparently i can get 23% abv from it. obviousley this is going to taste pretty rancid, i was wondering is it possible to add some kinda fruit flavouring as its fermenting and not after? i dont like the sound of fermenting 23% ALCOHOL IN MY BEDROOM, surely this is going to release some kinda funky smell. by the way thanks to the lads who gave me the help with the stout, the patience brought good results

 

[Scut_Monkey]

Adding fruit flavor to cover up a rancid tasting beer will simply taste like bad fruit flavored beer. I would suggest making a beer that will taste well and add fruit flavoring to it if you wish. Just my suggestion.

 

[thomas353]

Adding fruit flavor to cover up a rancid tasting beer will simply taste like bad fruit flavored beer. I would suggest making a beer that will taste well and add fruit flavoring to it if you wish. Just my suggestion.

i understand what your saying, its gonna be 23% alcohol, not really after a tasty brew like before, this time its more for the alcohol content without distillation, to see if it can be acheived, any sugar water and yeast soloution is not gonna taste so great, but its a wash and i was just wondering if i can improve it while its fermenting, its mainly for the drunks in this world we live in who will drink it, im just trying to make it a bit more palatable :rockin:

 

[Yuri_Rage]

Sounds a lot like bad hooch. We discourage that sort of thing around here.

Does anyone have any experience with said yeast in an undistilled beverage?

 

[jdlev]

Hey Yuri,

I'm curious as to where the feds draw the line when it comes to the distinction between brewing and home distilling. I assume it comes down to the actual distillation process that is illegal?

 

[Plastered_Marble]

Production for the purpose of consumption is restricted with licencing due.
TTBGov general alcohol FAQ

I seriously doubt they'd allow a "it's not distilled" loophole exist in the day and age of freezers.

 

[Veinman]

I'm pretty sure to be called distillation you have to be distilling...

I've made a sugar wash that went from 1.111 to .0997 for 15% ABV. It is pretty strong stuff but the taste is actually reasonably neutral. It is not a beer but if you mix it with a strong flavor (citrus works well) you can come up with some decent drinks. Mixed even parts with lemonade it makes a good hard lemonade or hard limeade, I've also used it to make jello shots (replace all the water with mix as per instructions) that tasted the same as vodka or white rum jello shots.

Sorry if this offends any rules on the forum if it does mods please let me know. I am for making good beer but I also like the hard limeade I learned to make on this forum and this seems like a similar thing.

 

[Veinman]

Production for the purpose of consumption is restricted with licencing due.
TTBGov general alcohol FAQ

I seriously doubt they'd allow a "it's not distilled" loophole exist in the day and age of freezers.

All this page says is that production of spirits for consumption is illegal, the page does not define "spirits". On other pages on this site they use the term "distilled" in front of spirits to create "distilled spirits". Further they state "Examples of beverage distilled spirits include neutral spirits or alcohol (i.e. vodka or grain spirits), whiskey, gin, brandy, blended applejack, rum, Tequila, cordials and liqueurs" all of which have been distilled in their production. I tried an extensive search of the TTB website to get a definition of "spirits" but could not find one to see if distillation was a necessary requirement.

This sugar wash most closely resemble wine if anything in that it is a large quantity of sugar fermented and not distilled and most likely falls under home wine production regulation..

 

[Yuri_Rage]

We do not discuss distillation. The production of a sugar based wine is fine (and legal). We also avoid discussing poor tasting hooch, as the forum is dedicated to producing high quality beer, wine, and cider.

Your approach is cordial and seems reasonable thus far, so I have no reason to close the thread. It does get my attention, though, when the goal appears to simply be "get drunk."

 

[Scut_Monkey]

Just curious how the moderators find these threads so quickly.

I don't have much interest in making hooch unless I'm stuck in prison someday. I can always go buy some Colt 45 or Vladimir vodka if a wanted a cheap buzz and bad hangover. I do find it interesting with high gravity beer brewing (Think Sam Adams Utopias). Interested to see where this thread ends up.

 

[JebCkr]

Anything that is 23% and a sugar wash is going to taste awful and be rather hard to ferment dry (I'm sure it can be done). Personally, if you're going for that high ABV and want something tasty I might try some sort of grapejuice base with Whitelabs Super High Gravity yeast. I think it can get around 22% if you're nice to it.

Hmm, maybe my empty carboy could produce some sort of high abv apple wine or something. You've got me thinking.

 

[Yuri_Rage]

Just curious how the moderators find these threads so quickly.

The same way you do..."New Posts." It's easy to spot the threads that are likely to start controversy.

 

[thomas353]

the purpose of the thread is maybe a science like experiment, i like the idea of yeast and sugar creating alcohol and to see how far you can push it, as i mentioned in my first post, it is all about the use of NON-DISTILLATION, and to see if a high alcohol content can be achieved, i was brewing my first batch of beer a few months ago and got some great advice here that was very much appreciated so if this thread has caused offence then i apologize, i understand you must keep within parameters but i find it a great discussion.

 

[Yuri_Rage]

the purpose of the thread is maybe a science like experiment
...
i find it a great discussion.

Precisely why it's still open. Other than some negativity by other members, the discussion is valid. Thanks for understanding the position of the site admin.