Advice for a brewer who doesn't drink
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Ok, First: Where have you been all my life? Who wouldn't want a friend that makes beer every other week just for your enjoyment? "Hey pal this IPA turned out pretty good. What say ya get crackin or a porter for me next?"
Second: I am my biggest critic when it comes to my homebrew. I have had friends and family say they love a beer that I have internally been picking apart for its flaws and knowing it could be better. Being able to sense these things comes from working with the raw materials and being able to judge them individually and as a whole.
Third: I would expect some strange looks from a HBC. But if I were there I would definetely be curious to see what a non beer drinker could come up with? I would also expect even more peer pressure to try a beer from these guys then you have seen here especially if anyone is gettin loose.
Fourth: Do you formulate your own recipes? Or just clones?
Second: I am my biggest critic when it comes to my homebrew. I have had friends and family say they love a beer that I have internally been picking apart for its flaws and knowing it could be better. Being able to sense these things comes from working with the raw materials and being able to judge them individually and as a whole.
Third: I would expect some strange looks from a HBC. But if I were there I would definetely be curious to see what a non beer drinker could come up with? I would also expect even more peer pressure to try a beer from these guys then you have seen here especially if anyone is gettin loose.
Fourth: Do you formulate your own recipes? Or just clones?
Gameface
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No, it's not, it's like a guy who can hear perfectly well but decides to put in earplugs every time he plays the piano because he can't stand the way the piano sounds, yet for some odd reason he wants to practice playing the piano all the time.
bobbrewedit
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Gameface said:
Ha!!! This!
I think I'm going to bookmark this thread so in about a year or two I can necro-post on it and bring it back to life!!!
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johngaltsmotor
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well johnbrown, I would say that if you can accurately translate your taste testers comments into an improved product you're better off than a lot of people I know who try to brew. If someone told me that a beer needed to be a bit rounder or the hops were a bit flat, I would have a hard time getting the right information from them to correct it.
It's like going to Sherwin-Williams and saying "this color isn't quite right, it needs to be more mellow" They don't just punch in the computer "add some extra mellow". The fact that you can translate their qualitative comments into quantitative changes is something to be proud of.
I'm an engineer so I love the scientific side of brewing along with the consumption.
And just like this forum, you're going to find a lot of people who can't fathom the idea of brewing without tasting the results. But you're also going to find some who enjoy being able to talk shop. So from my perspective, if you can hold your own in a conversation about beer and brewing and they can't tell that you don't drink in the 1st 10 minutes, they'll likely accept it as a quirk and move on to picking your brain for how they can improve their brewing.
But what do I know, my first barber was bald
It's like going to Sherwin-Williams and saying "this color isn't quite right, it needs to be more mellow" They don't just punch in the computer "add some extra mellow". The fact that you can translate their qualitative comments into quantitative changes is something to be proud of.
I'm an engineer so I love the scientific side of brewing along with the consumption.
And just like this forum, you're going to find a lot of people who can't fathom the idea of brewing without tasting the results. But you're also going to find some who enjoy being able to talk shop. So from my perspective, if you can hold your own in a conversation about beer and brewing and they can't tell that you don't drink in the 1st 10 minutes, they'll likely accept it as a quirk and move on to picking your brain for how they can improve their brewing.
But what do I know, my first barber was bald
Op hasn't posted in 6 days now. Still just sayin'... again.
Obliviousbrew
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Yes please... let his thread die
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No WAY!
I'm cheap and prefer one or two meaty beers that I have to slaughter instead of drinking twice as many cheeseburger beers.
dallasdb
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I can kind of understand where the OP is coming from. I like getting people's feedback more than my own... but I still drink my beer! And I'm the primary consumer of my labor.
If I didn't drink any of my beer I wouldn't waste my time and money on brewing.
He should make soda pop.
If I didn't drink any of my beer I wouldn't waste my time and money on brewing.
He should make soda pop.
Maybe he don't drink pop either.
mcspanner
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sonofgrok said:
Maybe he took everyone's advice and is slumped somewhere, passed out in a tutu hugging an empty carbuoy.
dallasdb
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BrewerBear said:
Then maybe he should mess with water compositions! Don't tell me he doesn't drink water haha
I think "bailed" is the word at this point...
uncommonsense
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I probly don't drink half the beer I brew, my dad and friends make sure of that. But I don't mind. I don't make it to have a lot of beer to drink, I brew because I like to. But on the other side I like to taste it. Ill sit there for an hour picking 1 pint apart. My question is (maybe been asked) how do you know you don't like it. That the same thing I ask when someone says they don't like dark beer. my answer is always There all kinds out there I bet theres one out there for you and if not I bet I can brew on you'll like.
I don't think anybody got a reasonable analogy for this situation.
The OP loves to brew beer for other people. He uses their feedback to brew beers that they enjoy.
Is there something wrong with that? He loves the process. He loves to make them happy.
Why should any one of you others give a rats ass if wants to drink any of it or not? He wasn't asking whether he should or not, yet many replies felt compelled to try to talk him into it.
He wanted to know how most other brewers felt about his unique practices and he got his money worth and then some.
Frankly, I don't understand why he wouldn't want to at least TASTE his beer, but most here are very intolerant of someone who does something different from them and affects them in no way. Instead of just saying I don't get it and good luck with that, you probably scared him from hanging out here continuing to learn how to make the other people in his like happy with his beer.
Shame on you all.
The OP loves to brew beer for other people. He uses their feedback to brew beers that they enjoy.
Is there something wrong with that? He loves the process. He loves to make them happy.
Why should any one of you others give a rats ass if wants to drink any of it or not? He wasn't asking whether he should or not, yet many replies felt compelled to try to talk him into it.
He wanted to know how most other brewers felt about his unique practices and he got his money worth and then some.
Frankly, I don't understand why he wouldn't want to at least TASTE his beer, but most here are very intolerant of someone who does something different from them and affects them in no way. Instead of just saying I don't get it and good luck with that, you probably scared him from hanging out here continuing to learn how to make the other people in his like happy with his beer.
Shame on you all.
I don't get the hostility toward someone's obvious weirdness.
I'm sure there are many parents here who will make food for their kids, which the kids love and the parents simply won't ever eat. It's sort of similar to that.
I just think that with some consideration, one could come up with another void to fill that one could enjoy as much as his friends and family... And that this would make more sense.
I also think that the rationale for disliking alcohol is sort of silly--where disliking the taste is THE PERFECT reason not to drink.
How about roasting coffee? If I had to choose between coffee and beer, I'd probably choose death.
I'm sure there are many parents here who will make food for their kids, which the kids love and the parents simply won't ever eat. It's sort of similar to that.
I just think that with some consideration, one could come up with another void to fill that one could enjoy as much as his friends and family... And that this would make more sense.
I also think that the rationale for disliking alcohol is sort of silly--where disliking the taste is THE PERFECT reason not to drink.
How about roasting coffee? If I had to choose between coffee and beer, I'd probably choose death.
Pilgarlic
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It's an anonymous forum. Land of B.S. If someone posts a really implausible, incomprehensible story, as this certainly is/was, and that same someone doesn't expect to be challenged to somehow make it plausible, then that someone is truly naive.
He fabricated this tale. That's the least implausible among terrifically implausible explanations.
He fabricated this tale. That's the least implausible among terrifically implausible explanations.
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Homercidal said:
Really??? Ugh
FATC1TY
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I think this is an odd thread, however, I will have to point out one thing since it's at the top of the page now.
Threads like this, show how cool the site is, and the powers that be that keep this place cleaned up and running are to allow it to run it's course. Some people got rude, others got upset about that and felt they needed to be a hero, and in the end, the guy is gone because he knows he's an oddball.
But anyways- good on you mods.. It was a funny read.
Threads like this, show how cool the site is, and the powers that be that keep this place cleaned up and running are to allow it to run it's course. Some people got rude, others got upset about that and felt they needed to be a hero, and in the end, the guy is gone because he knows he's an oddball.
But anyways- good on you mods.. It was a funny read.
bottlebomber
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That is something I appreciate too about the moderation on this forum - things are almost always on a case by case basis. And since it is a community, it is good when things can just be allowed to run their course.
Gameface
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Not be a jerk, but right now I sort of wish there was a dislike button. Why bump this without adding anything?
paranoiddroid
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having read most of the thread I am struck by a few things, the attitude of if you don't think like me you are wrong or psychotic or whatever, the pushing and demanding may be a huge influence on why the dude doesnt drink, its one of the reasons I haven't tried certain drugs because they were pushed and pushed and pushed.
To be honest mate, go your own way and rock on, have fun, if you approach brewing as a science cool. I think its an art so I have different ideas and do taste stuff but to be told "sell your stuff" "don't bother" etc is a bit....
as for the hunting arguement, wrt sport hunting, look at africa where the value placed on the animals by sport hunters and what they will pay has saved the species from being wiped out, they do feed the villages they hire guides from with the meat but the main value they bring is the conservation of a species. dismissing hunters as evil or sociopathic is something dangerous as it means you have allowed personal feeling s to blind you to any logical reasons for their actions.
if you're a troll, well done you have got people to practice psychobabble on you meaning you present a believable case.
To be honest mate, go your own way and rock on, have fun, if you approach brewing as a science cool. I think its an art so I have different ideas and do taste stuff but to be told "sell your stuff" "don't bother" etc is a bit....
as for the hunting arguement, wrt sport hunting, look at africa where the value placed on the animals by sport hunters and what they will pay has saved the species from being wiped out, they do feed the villages they hire guides from with the meat but the main value they bring is the conservation of a species. dismissing hunters as evil or sociopathic is something dangerous as it means you have allowed personal feeling s to blind you to any logical reasons for their actions.
if you're a troll, well done you have got people to practice psychobabble on you meaning you present a believable case.
bottlebomber
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paranoiddroid said:
The mistake you made was reading the whole thread. I learned that from the first page. Time you will never get back, my friend.
