60/-, 70/- or 80/-

[jermanimal]

Which Scottish Ale should I make?

1.038, 1.045 or 1.051 SG

One other thing, I don't have much feel for how much hops to put into the different "weights".

Using the Brewing classic styles recipe, Jamil neglects to mention the difference in IBUs for the different grain bills.

15, 17, 20 IBU?

 

[Walker]

Personally, I think a 1.038 beer would be way to weak for me to enjoy. 1.045 might even fall into that same bucket, but that's just me.

I've made an 80/- a few times, and it had about 30 IBUs with 1.052 OG.

That's about max for the 80/- style according to BJCP guidelines: http://www.bjcp.org/styles04/Category9.php

 

[jermanimal]

Duh, I was pounding my head...BJCP guidelines seems reasonable.

Probably going to do the 80/-...I am a big fan of the Belhaven Scottish Ale which seems to be in the US a 80/-.

 

[motobrewer]

1.038 is so not too weak to enjoy. my first beer was a 1.035 bitter. i'm glad it was, because it never implanted any "its not beer unless it's 1.050" garbage in my head.

i just made a 70/- and i'm excited for it. 21 ibu's, 1.041

 

[Walker]

1.038 is so not too weak to enjoy. my first beer was a 1.035 bitter. i'm glad it was, because it never implanted any "its not beer unless it's 1.050" garbage in my head.

Well... thanks for calling my personal opinion garbage.

I don't think there is anything wrong with smaller beers in general, it's just a matter of personal preference that I like my beers around 1.050. I've made a few beers that were under 1.048, and while they tasted fine, they just didn't satisfy me. Good for a hot day, but I prefer something more hearty.

 

[brewagentjay]

Come on guys or girls....

This post was asking for opinions.....That's all....No one's opinion is right or wrong here just an opinion.....By way I like to agree with Walker some what I do prefer 1.48 or higher....

Side note Yooper is only one who is right on this board

 

[Walker]

I wasn't actually offended or anything. Just playing around. The winky face was supposed to convey the humerous sarcasm of my comment.

All is well here.

 

[Potter1]

In my opinion trying to make a lower gravity beer that is still satisfying and drinkable is a great challenge. Nothing better than a few pints of Mild or 60/ to quench your thirst while not pounding you into the ground. Not that I'm opposed to big, honkin' brews, at all, in any way, now way, huh-uh!

 

[Walker]

Lol.

I weight 210 and have some tolerance. A couple pints of 1.055 goes unnoticed

 

[COLObrewer]

Perhaps a wee heavy would be in order. . . . . . .:cross:

 

[Skacorica]

yes, I vote for wee heavy as well :-D

 

[Shooter]

I am a big fan of the Belhaven Scottish Ale which seems to be in the US a 80/-.

One of my favorites as well and a big reason why a Scottish 80/- is on my list of beers to brew in the near future! :rockin:

 

[archiefl98]

Another vote for Wee !@#$ing Heavy!!!!
:rockin:

I actually like the Scottish brews across the board if done right. With a nice high-temp mash and a bunch of unfermentables in the beer, they give a great full flavor and mouthfeel. I'm brewing up another Wee this weekend. Guess I'll crack the first bottle open about Thursday. In November.

One thing I will say is that I don't care for peat smoked malt in my Scotch ales. Peat belongs in my whisky. Not so much in my beers. Of course others just love it, so TEHO TEHO.

 

[MBasile]

I made a 70/- once. It was a nice beer to enjoy if I was just having something like a big salad for dinner. Not everything has to be up in the "knock you on your ass" level of alcohol.

 

[gratus fermentatio]

Which Scottish Ale should I make?

1.038, 1.045 or 1.051 SG

One other thing, I don't have much feel for how much hops to put into the different "weights".

Using the Brewing classic styles recipe, Jamil neglects to mention the difference in IBUs for the different grain bills.

15, 17, 20 IBU?

80/- wins in my book. Regards, GF

 

[Skacorica]

Another vote for Wee !@#$ing Heavy!!!!
:rockin:

I actually like the Scottish brews across the board if done right. With a nice high-temp mash and a bunch of unfermentables in the beer, they give a great full flavor and mouthfeel. I'm brewing up another Wee this weekend. Guess I'll crack the first bottle open about Thursday. In November.

One thing I will say is that I don't care for peat smoked malt in my Scotch ales. Peat belongs in my whisky. Not so much in my beers. Of course others just love it, so TEHO TEHO.

I agree completely, peaty taste belongs in Scotch, not beer. When I think of big mouthfeel, I think of one of my favs, McEwans scotch ale that sadly has been scratched from being imported. Love that huge malty full flavor.

 

[Skacorica]

Which Scottish Ale should I make?

1.038, 1.045 or 1.051 SG

One other thing, I don't have much feel for how much hops to put into the different "weights".

Using the Brewing classic styles recipe, Jamil neglects to mention the difference in IBUs for the different grain bills.

15, 17, 20 IBU?

Id do 1.070ish, with 20 IBU.

 

[jmwc95]

Another vote for Wee !@#$ing Heavy!!!!
:rockin:

Caramelize the crap out of that wort!

 

[smmcdermott]

I just made an 80 and boy is it good. I would definitely recommend it.

 

[Egghead]

Make the 60/, use the yeast cake in a 70/, use that yeast cake in an 80/ and then use that yeast cake in a Wee Heavy. Best of all worlds.

 

[jermanimal]

Here's what I went with:


Scottish Heavy 80


09-C Scottish and Irish Ale, Scottish Export 80


Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 6.00 Wort Size (Gal): 6.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 10.86
Anticipated OG: 1.051 Plato: 12.71
Anticipated SRM: 13.0
Anticipated IBU: 18.5
Brewhouse Efficiency: 77 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts
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Evaporation Rate: 0.75 Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size: 6.75 Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.046 SG 11.35 Plato


Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
79.6 8.64 lbs. Pale Ale Malt(Maris Otter) America 317.42 4
8.4 0.91 lbs. Crystal 40L America 284.01 40
4.2 0.45 lbs. Honey Malt Canada 250.59 18
4.2 0.45 lbs. Munich Malt(light) America 275.65 10
2.1 0.23 lbs. Crystal 120L American 275.65 120
1.6 0.17 lbs. Pale Chocolate Malt America 242.24 200

Potential represented as IOB- HWE ( L / kg ).


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.00 oz. Goldings - E.K. Whole 5.00 18.5 60 min.


Yeast
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WYeast 1728 Scotish Ale

Starter
1 L (187 cells) Stir Plate


Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs: 10.86
Water Qts: 14.11 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 3.53 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.30 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 158 Time: 60
Mash-out Rest Temp : 168 Time: 10
Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 60


Total Mash Volume Gal: 4.40 - Dough-In Infusion Only