3 FLoyds Zombie Dust attempt. Help/info requested

[jawilson20]

Apparently you missed this part of post #1: "I have also used 1968 and it was similar to the S-04, perhaps a bit fruitier and it was sweeter/higher FG. If using it I would recommend mashing a few degrees cooler."

I guess I did. Whoops!

Is there a consensus mash temp? I am thinking 150.

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I guess I did. Whoops!

Is there a consensus mash temp? I am thinking 150.

I used Conan yeast last time and mashed at 152 and it got down to ~1.011. 150 would probably work great, but I can't remember off hand what temp I used for 1968

 

[white_sage]

I used Conan yeast last time and mashed at 152 and it got down to ~1.011. 150 would probably work great, but I can't remember off hand what temp I used for 1968

How did the conan pair with citra hops?

 

[skeezerpleezer]

It was really good, I will use it again next time. I also used Pearl malt as the base on that one (ala Heady Topper).

 

[white_sage]

Nice, Sunday is day 14 of fermentation of my HT clone using the conan. I've used the YG-001 for a wet hop beer last weekend and using again this weekend for a variation on Tasty's APA with Citra.

 

[Adaman05]

Nice, Sunday is day 14 of fermentation of my HT clone using the conan. I've used the YG-001 for a wet hop beer last weekend and using again this weekend for a variation on Tasty's APA with Citra.

I'm drinking my HT clone now, with the YG001 (Conan) yeast, and it is awesome. As Skeezer did, my last ZD clone was with Conan yeast and Pearl as the base malt. It's only been fermenting for 5 days, so I'll have to chime in later when it's kegged. I normally dry hop right in the primary, but since Conan is so hard to find these days, I think I'll have to rack off the Conan so I can harvest some. I've never harvested yeast before, but in this case, I think it's worth it.

 

[white_sage]

I'm drinking my HT clone now, with the YG001 (Conan) yeast, and it is awesome. As Skeezer did, my last ZD clone was with Conan yeast and Pearl as the base malt. It's only been fermenting for 5 days, so I'll have to chime in later when it's kegged. I normally dry hop right in the primary, but since Conan is so hard to find these days, I think I'll have to rack off the Conan so I can harvest some. I've never harvested yeast before, but in this case, I think it's worth it.

Please do, I've been building up starters that are 50-100 bil cells larger than necessary and adding to a sanitized ball jar just before pitching. So far so good. I'll have to give the ZD with Pearl and Conan a go!

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I'm drinking my HT clone now, with the YG001 (Conan) yeast, and it is awesome. As Skeezer did, my last ZD clone was with Conan yeast and Pearl as the base malt. It's only been fermenting for 5 days, so I'll have to chime in later when it's kegged. I normally dry hop right in the primary, but since Conan is so hard to find these days, I think I'll have to rack off the Conan so I can harvest some. I've never harvested yeast before, but in this case, I think it's worth it.

You could just use an autosiphon or racking cane to siphon some off the top of the cake, then dry hop.

 

[Pfieffer]

I just did a post on my blog trying this recipe for an extract kit....the recipe did sound solid, however this was my first time home brewing by myself and let's just say....I will never do that again. Check out what happened:
http://anderhoff.blogspot.com/2013/08/my-first-home-brewing-disaster.html

 

[skeezerpleezer]

I just did a post on my blog trying this recipe for an extract kit....the recipe did sound solid, however this was my first time home brewing by myself and let's just say....I will never do that again. Check out what happened:
http://anderhoff.blogspot.com/2013/08/my-first-home-brewing-disaster.html

Or you could post here?

 

[FlyDoctor]

I just did a post on my blog trying this recipe for an extract kit....the recipe did sound solid, however this was my first time home brewing by myself and let's just say....I will never do that again. Check out what happened:
http://anderhoff.blogspot.com/2013/08/my-first-home-brewing-disaster.html

Interesting given that I think many people brew alone exclusively. I have never had a brew partner, and some argue that with partners your more likely to make mistakes due to distractions or each thinking the other did something.

 

[Garyr2973]

Brewed this on 7/21/13 for a fantasy football draft tomorrow (8/31/13). This beer is amazing! I used the S-04 yeast. It fermented fast and I dry hopped for 10 days with 3 oz of Citra. This will be the #1 beer on tap at my house for a very long time.

 

[BOYDBrew]

This is my second time brewing this, I love this beer!!! Had the "Ohhh" face all day while brewing it. Can't wait to drink. Thanks for the recipe!!
P.s. I threw in some calypso (that I won from my brew club) for fun.

 

[GoodDogBadDog]

subbed

 

[LuciferSam]

So Im on my 5th batch of beer. All have been based on this recipe. being from chicago I love 3 floyds and zombie dust too. Its too bad I cant even get it from the brewery anymore, ive been going there since they opened. now the hipsters and yuppies have taken it over!

Love this forum... Ive learned so much : built a 3 tap keeper and stir plate and everything in between... Im still in extract - waiting for the funds to go all grain and 15 gallon batches...

On to my question??? I brewed a batch last night, and today the fermentor is going crazy! I have a blow off tube into a bucket, and its VERY active. I created a yeast starter from a white labs WLP002 English Ale vial that was 2 months past best by date, and 2 pint jars of recently washed 1968 yeast. mixed with 1 cup DME + 4 cups water. What will happen if I used too much yeast? Will one dominate the other? or will they compliment each other?
Thanks

 

[Zeppman]

^ - From my limited knowledge, 1968 is the same (or close to it) yeast as wlp002. I'm assuming this was a 5gal batch? I think you have to over pitch A LOT to get noticeable "bad" results. I think you'll be fine.

 

[LuciferSam]

@ 3 Floyd's now ... This place is great! Zombie on tap is great very fresh dank citrus flavor! Anicca is really good too w/ mosaic hops! Food is as good as the beer... Too bad no zombie dust to go

 

[jvh261]

Anyone brewed using El Dorado hops? No luck getting a lb. of Citra anywhere and I ain't spending $2.50+ an ounce but want to brew something like ZDust again. Was thinking of subbing with El Dorado, but never actually brewed with them before. Thoughts? Maybe bitter with something else...Magnum or Warrior.

El Dorado® is a special dual purpose variety with exceptional aroma qualities and high alpha acids. It was developed by CLS Farms, LLC in 2008 and released in 2010. El Dorado® consistently elicits responses of fruity notes, specifically tropical fruit flavors. Other fruit notes offered have been pear, watermelon and stone fruit.

 

[Dolomieu]

http://www.hopsdirect.com/citrauslf/

that was hard

 

[J343MY]

Anyone brewed using El Dorado hops? No luck getting a lb. of Citra anywhere and I ain't spending $2.50+ an ounce but want to brew something like ZDust again. Was thinking of subbing with El Dorado, but never actually brewed with them before. Thoughts? Maybe bitter with something else...Magnum or Warrior.

El Dorado® is a special dual purpose variety with exceptional aroma qualities and high alpha acids. It was developed by CLS Farms, LLC in 2008 and released in 2010. El Dorado® consistently elicits responses of fruity notes, specifically tropical fruit flavors. Other fruit notes offered have been pear, watermelon and stone fruit.

Try a 50/50 combo of amarillo and chinook. I got a hop profile that was more similar to zombie dust than all citra by doing this.

 

[CrystallineEntity]

Just tasted my hydro sample and it's tasty! Went from 1.064 to 1.016 with WY 1968. Can't wait to try it once it's carbed up.

Thanks for the recipe.

 

[skotdanyul]

Try a 50/50 combo of amarillo and chinook. I got a hop profile that was more similar to zombie dust than all citra by doing this.

I have brewed this 5 times and have found that the originial recipe has far too much Citra in it. I went for higher mash temps, like 156, and also eliminated any hop addition before 10 mins(except FWH). I used a 50/50 combo of citra and Amarillo for my late additions and it was way closer to the real thing.

 

[TallDan]

I have brewed this 5 times and have found that the originial recipe has far too much Citra in it. I went for higher mash temps, like 156, and also eliminated any hop addition before 10 mins(except FWH). I used a 50/50 combo of citra and Amarillo for my late additions and it was way closer to the real thing.

I am planning to brew this either tomorrow or Sunday. My plan was to play with the hop schedule a little to get it to an even 8oz of hops just because I'd rather not open a third 4oz bag if i don't have to. Also, my citra is labeled 14% AA instead of the 12.4 listed here.

To clarify, you removed the 15min addition?

I was thinking of keeping all of the additions, just reducing the later additions some, along the lines of:

.75oz FWH
1 oz 15min
1 oz 10min
1 oz 5min
1.25oz 1min
3oz Dry Hop

This with my 14%AA citra is giving me an similar ibu rating to the original according to brewtarget. Thoughts?

 

[BOYDBrew]

Just kegged today.
Tasted great out of the fermentor!
Will post a pic soon.

 

[skotdanyul]

I am planning to brew this either tomorrow or Sunday. My plan was to play with the hop schedule a little to get it to an even 8oz of hops just because I'd rather not open a third 4oz bag if i don't have to. Also, my citra is labeled 14% AA instead of the 12.4 listed here.

To clarify, you removed the 15min addition?

I was thinking of keeping all of the additions, just reducing the later additions some, along the lines of:

.75oz FWH
1 oz 15min
1 oz 10min
1 oz 5min
1.25oz 1min
3oz Dry Hop

This with my 14%AA citra is giving me an similar ibu rating to the original according to brewtarget. Thoughts?

That should work well but I still truly believe that using 100% Citra just adds a flavor thatis not in the real thing(I know, I know, they say they use all Citra). I did remove the 15 min addition because I felt that the malt profile was being masked(also why I mashed a little higher). I tried this once using Centennial as my FWH and even it, I believe, was closer to the real thing.

Certainly there are other variables in the whole process and maybe the Cita I use isn't as good of quality as what they use. My Citra was also 14% AA.

 

[bmick]

First time having this beer tonight, as it's not available in NY (out of town in the Midwest on business, was lucky enough to snag a 6-er). The only thing I can say is that there is definitely some Amarillo in this beer. The nose, and even the taste, remind me a little of Dogfish 60 minute. I've done SMaSH beers with Amarillo, and this is the aroma, no doubt. Not sure if it was covered anywhere in the thread, but I think the idea that this is a Citra-only beer is off base (even if maybe it had started that way). Either way, a very, very nice offering.

 

[Adaman05]

Mashed in 10 gallons 45 min ago. Man, I love this recipe. 6th time brewing it. I also got 14% citra, so I scaled back the flavor additions and will use the remaining hops in a 30 min aroma steep at 180 F.

 

[flibe]

I can't read through all 105 pages.

I'm confused on the first wort hopping (at 20 minutes boil---what?) and why it isn't adding as much bitterness?

My calculated bitterness for this brew is huge. The first post addresses it, but i'm still confused.

 

[tschafer]

skeezerpleezer - or anyone that has brew the updated recipe on PG 1

Question: Why is sugar not used to dry this IPA out (AG version)?

Seem like it would be necessary. Am i wrong?

Kind of want to do a citra bomb this weekend, recipe looks tasty.

 

[poptarts]

Tasted this side by side with the real thing the other day and it was so close to the same, i would say the difference was my lack of water treatment and mine was 5 months old. Its cloned.