1st self made recipe help/approval

[barefoot]

Hello all, I've been stealing information from you guys for months, I finally had to join.
I've done a few kits and have had really good luck so far, but after alot of reading and research, I'm trying to come up with my own summer ale recipe.
Please tell me if I'm on the right path and feel free to advise me.

By the way, I'm looking for a crisp, hoppy, smooth, and more hoppy beer

Ingredients; 1.0 lb Briess Organic Carapils
3.15 lbs Northern Brewer Pilsen Malt Syrup
3.0 lbs Munton’s DME Wheat
1.0 oz Hallertau Hops
1.0 oz Cascade Hops
0.5 oz Saaz hops
1 packet Safale US-05 Yeast

Directions
1. Steep Carapils 30 minutes at 155^-160^
2. Bring to Boil
3. 50 minutes add 3lbs Munton’s DME
4. 45 minutes add 1oz Hallertau Hops
5. 30 minutes Pull off heat, add Malt Syrup, stir, put back on heat
6. 15 minutes add 1oz Cascade Hops and 1 teaspoon Irish Moss
7. 5 minutes add ½ oz Saaz Hops
8. Pitch Yeast @ 70^-75^ Safale us-05


I'm doing a 50 min boil to help keep the beer light colored. I'm coming up with an OG of 1.048 (I think)

Thanks for the help.

 

[jonmohno]

How much water you steeping the carapils.The thing that sucks about carapils is it is more efficent in a mash but your one pound should get you where you need it.Ive always thought i needed more when i do it but i was also undercarbonating not giving the carapils its chance. Looks like a good pale ale. Plus they must be the hardest to crush, i have a fear of breaking my wine bottle i use when i crush them,getting them precrushed next time.
If you want a lighter beer i would recommend doing half the extract at 60. why boil without your extract and hops for the first 10 min? You wont gain anything boiling steeped carapils water for 10 min. The reason for the 60 min is for hop utilazation and you want the most out of your hops given your receipe you are kind of wasting some of your hop utilization.
woops, sorry your doing a 50 min boil.
Hallertau is a good aroma hop also.

 

[barefoot]

Thanks fot the info, I can order the carapils already crushed from northernbrewer. I was going to steep them in the 2.5 gallon brew pot, should I do something different?

 

[jessebymail]

I agree start the 60 minutes when you add your first hops after steeping. Then add extract. If you have unhopped extract you can even add it after the boil. I dont like adding it halfway because thats usually when i get the hot break.

 

[jonmohno]

I was wondering how much water your steeeping with because im unshure if you can use too much water for steeping or not.
Did you check your ibu's on a brew calc?

 

[jangelj]

looks good. more like a pale ale than an IPA. You said "hoppy" twice in your description and this won't be that hoppy. It will be a nice, light brew, but the hops won't hit you in the face. Probably won't even slap you politely. Maybe a love tap?

Maybe dryhop with another oz of cascade for 7 days? Yum!

 

[iron_city_ap]

Running the numbers through Beer Smith, its showing me 26.8 IBU. Not very hoppy at all. If you switched it up and add the Cascade at 60 minutes, it jumps up to 36.7, but the trade off is less aeroma. I say add the Cascade at 60 since it is your highest alpha hops, so it'll give you the most bitterness, using only what you have listed. For an IPA or a Pale Ale, I've read that you want to get close to a 1/1 Bitterness ratio (IBU/OG). The closer you can get the bitterness to 40 with this recipe, the better you'll be.

That being said, only using 2.5 ounces of low alpha hops can only get you so much. You could add another ounce somewhere in the boil, say, around the 20-30 minute range you will probably like the results better.

 

[jonmohno]

If you do half extract you will get more ibu's also then half at near flamout.The less your OG at the boil the more ibu's.It may get you lighter color plus more hop utilization. Without have to add more hops. But i would consider dryhopping if you want more aroma intensity.

 

[barefoot]

I was wondering how much water your steeeping with because im unshure if you can use too much water for steeping or not.
Did you check your ibu's on a brew calc?

Nah, not that advanced in this yet.

 

[barefoot]

looks good. more like a pale ale than an IPA. You said "hoppy" twice in your description and this won't be that hoppy. It will be a nice, light brew, but the hops won't hit you in the face. Probably won't even slap you politely. Maybe a love tap?

Maybe dryhop with another oz of cascade for 7 days? Yum!

Don't want a slap in the face, but a solid love tap is nice. Love the instant smell of hops when you pop the top
.

 

[barefoot]

Running the numbers through Beer Smith, its showing me 26.8 IBU. Not very hoppy at all. If you switched it up and add the Cascade at 60 minutes, it jumps up to 36.7, but the trade off is less aeroma. I say add the Cascade at 60 since it is your highest alpha hops, so it'll give you the most bitterness, using only what you have listed. For an IPA or a Pale Ale, I've read that you want to get close to a 1/1 Bitterness ratio (IBU/OG). The closer you can get the bitterness to 40 with this recipe, the better you'll be.

That being said, only using 2.5 ounces of low alpha hops can only get you so much. You could add another ounce somewhere in the boil, say, around the 20-30 minute range you will probably like the results better.

sounds like a good idea, will make the change, thanks for the advice.

I just realized the multiquote feature, sorry

 

[barefoot]

Alright, made some changes, see if this sounds better.
I'm only doing a 50 minute boil and steeping in the same pot that I'm brewing. 2.5 gallons (5 gallon batch total)


1. Steep Carapils 30 minutes at 155^-160^ in 2.5 gallons
2. Bring to Boil
3. 50 minutes add 3lbs Munton’s DME & 1oz Cascade Hops
4. 45 minutes add 1oz Hallertau Hops
5. 30 minutes Pull off heat, add Malt Syrup, stir, put back on heat
6. 15 minutes 1 teaspoon Irish Moss
7. 5 minutes add 1 oz Saaz Hops
8. Pitch Yeast @ 70^-75^ Safale us-05


Thanks again for the help.

 

[iron_city_ap]

That'll get you about 35.2 IBUs. I like upping the Saaz amount. Good call. Another thing you could do is split the Saaz. Add .5oz at 15 minutes, when you add the Irish Moss and the other .5oz at 5. I'll up the IBUs by 2 but still give you a nice aroma.

Out of curiosity, why are you going with a 50 minute boil instead of 60?

 

[jonmohno]

I think he was impling 50 min for color but i think he will have better luck with color doing half extract at 60 and half at 15- flamout. Rather than doing 50 min instead of 60
Im gonna have to brew something similar to this i got opened pilsen and wheat extract that im going to have to use up in my next 4 brews. Let us know how it turns out after 6 weeks or so.

 

[barefoot]

I think he was impling 50 min for color but i think he will have better luck with color doing half extract at 60 and half at 15- flamout. Rather than doing 50 min instead of 60
Im gonna have to brew something similar to this i got opened pilsen and wheat extract that im going to have to use up in my next 4 brews. Let us know how it turns out after 6 weeks or so.

I'll be sure to let you know, if the weather cooperates I will be brewing this upcoming weekend, all brewing is done on the back deck, cleaning up with a waterhose is nice.

That'll get you about 35.2 IBUs. I like upping the Saaz amount. Good call. Another thing you could do is split the Saaz. Add .5oz at 15 minutes, when you add the Irish Moss and the other .5oz at 5. I'll up the IBUs by 2 but still give you a nice aroma.

Out of curiosity, why are you going with a 50 minute boil instead of 60?

Yeah, I was going for color but I think I'll go with jonmohno's advice and do a 60 minute boil and split it up 60/15. I will split the Saaz like you said 15/5.
I think this is gonna be good.
Thanks again guys.

 

[iron_city_ap]

Good luck. I'm sure it'll be great.

 

[ThePearsonFam]

Although not as much of a concern with DME/LME (as with the actual grains), you might want to consider boiling the Pilsner syrup longer due to DMS. It's reduced to syrup by boiling in a vaccum which helps rid the malt of DMS precursors but it doesn't do as good of a job as boiling at atmosphere temps (100C or 212F). The recommendation is to boil for 90-100 minutes if you're using grains or 60 minutes for extract. Try to cool below 80F as quickly as possible too.