10.10.10 Recipe Discussion Thread - The HBT Anniversary Series

[Chriso]

I, too, really want to do an Imperial Pilsner sometime. Soon, the fermentation cooler will be in construction phase, buahaha.

 

[Slappy White]

Thats my birthday, so I feel I should definitely be in...how bout something pretty off the wall. A brew that stays the same throughout the recipe for everyone except for the hops. There is a hop schedule, but you have to replace the hops with some other spice or whatever. After everyone has brewed it, you can reveal what you picked to brew with...Just an idea...not sure if its a good one or not. what you think?

 

[blacklab]

Has anyone ever had an Imperial Pilsner? Sounds like too much booze and not enough body? How would you make one? If you add more base malt you're going to get into Pale Ale and IPA territory. Just adding a bunch of dextrose to a pilsner recipe sounds nasty. I haven't so I'm just wondering what it's all about.

 

[FSR402]

I just thought I would add in a recipe too.
This is the Wee Heavy that I have on tap now and it's about to run out. She's a year old now and ab-so-effn-lutly amazing.

Bagpipper Ale
Brew Type: All Grain
Date:
Style: Scottish Wee Heavy Ale
Brewer: Part Time Brewery
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Volume: 7.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Equipment: Brew Pot (15 Gal) and Igloo/Gott Cooler (20 Gal)


Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
13 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 79.66 %
1 lbs Aromatic Malt (Briess) (20.0 SRM) Grain 6.13 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 6.13 %
1 lbs Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 6.13 %
3.0 oz Peat Smoked Malt (2.8 SRM) Grain 1.16 %
2.1 oz Roasted Barley (Briess) (300.0 SRM) Grain 0.80 %
1.00 oz Northern Brewer [8.00 %] (60 min) Hops 20.8 IBU
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Edinburgh Ale (White Labs #WLP028) [Starter 200 ml] Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.082 SG (1.075-1.100 SG)
Measured Original Gravity: 1.080 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.021 SG (1.018-1.035 SG)
Measured Final Gravity: 1.028 SG
Estimated Color: 24.2 SRM (10.0-47.0 SRM)
Bitterness: 20.8 IBU (20.0-40.0 IBU)


Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Full Body Mash Tun Weight: 40.00 lb
Mash Grain Weight: 16.32 lb
Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 18.44 qt of water at 181.3 F 154.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Add 8.32 qt of water at 211.2 F 168.0 F 10 min
Sparge Water: 2.52 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Has anyone ever had an Imperial Pilsner? Sounds like too much booze and not enough body? How would you make one? If you add more base malt you're going to get into Pale Ale and IPA territory. Just adding a bunch of dextrose to a pilsner recipe sounds nasty. I haven't so I'm just wondering what it's all about.

I had an imperial pilsner about 2 years ago, and no joke, it tasted like a 40.

 

[jrhammonds]

My vote is still the Rochefort 10 clone!

 

[jay8s]

I kinda feel that these are brews that should take time to create a recipe, and time to age. That being said do we really need to start thinking about something 2 year down the road, soon we will be working on something for 2020 and so on. I am just thinking here that we are getting WAY ahead of ourselves. How about a poll or something to see what everyone wants, then working from there. I seem to remember that the RIS was started that way.

jay8s

 

[Chriso]

But I would like to brew one on 10-10-08 and 10-10-09, so that is why I am starting this thread so early.

That's why I want to get this rolling. I mean, if we decide not to do it yet, fine. I'll brew the Strong Scotch anyways in October, I've been meaning to brew one.

Just trying to get some discussion going. *shrug*

I mean, I guess the real question is, why are we doing these Anniversary Brews in the first place?

How about a poll or something to see what everyone wants, then working from there. I seem to remember that the RIS was started that way.

Actually, that was the 07-07-07 Brew. And it had numerous, numerous polls. And in fact, STILL takes a great deal of reading to figure out which recipe was, or wasn't, the real one. The 08-08-08 brew pretty much started by saying, "BrewPastor, grant us a recipe with 8's in it", and he did, and it was wonderful. That kind of "take charge"-ness was, in my opinion, one of the things that really caused the RIS Swap to take off. It is my perception that the '07 beers never really got shared, except between a few dedicated HBTers who took their bottles with them to a gathering. (GABF?)

The only poll that took place with the 08 RIS, to my recollection, was whether to Brew or Drink on 8/8/08. Most brewers voted Drink.

 

[Coastarine]

I think a scotch ale is perfect, and I'll let you guys work out the recipe, but I am so in on this one.

I think a dubbel or tripel would make a good choice for these brews in the future. Just throwing that out there.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Actually, that was the 07-07-07 Brew. And it had numerous, numerous polls. And in fact, STILL takes a great deal of reading to figure out which recipe was, or wasn't, the real one. The 08-08-08 brew pretty much started by saying, "BrewPastor, grant us a recipe with 8's in it", and he did, and it was wonderful. That kind of "take charge"-ness was, in my opinion, one of the things that really caused the RIS Swap to take off. It is my perception that the '07 beers never really got shared, except between a few dedicated HBTers who took their bottles with them to a gathering. (GABF?)

The only poll that took place with the 08 RIS, to my recollection, was whether to Brew or Drink on 8/8/08. Most brewers voted Drink.

I agree 110% I was participating in the original 07/07/07 thread, and while I was initially very excited, it quickly degenerated into chaos. I think someone even made the point that it was an example of why democracy just doesn't work!
I'd be happy to work off of a single base recipe. Those who prefer to alter a single component should feel free to do so; this will make sharing and comparing more interesting. However, once a standard recipe is decided upon, I would humbly suggest that participants should limit themselves to modifying only one variable. otherwise there is no cohesiveness.

 

[Yooper]

When we were talking about the 999 brew, there was some discussion of a blonde dopplebock. I'd still like to consider something "special" like that, although I know not everyone can lager. A wee heavy is ok, I guess, but not really what I think of as a commerative type brew.

 

[Chriso]

When we were talking about the 999 brew, there was some discussion of a blonde dopplebock. (...) A wee heavy is ok, I guess, but not really what I think of as a commerative type brew.

I hear ya. I'm still not 100% about it myself. Blonde Doppelbock, likewise, I am just a little unsure of, it's another I really don't drink often, or like drinking as much as a RIS. What about a strong English IPA? Go old school with it, the real across-the-continent strong stuff?

What other styles are fun? I mean, I guess a Rochefort 10 clone is okay, but... again. I'd also do a Saison/Funkhouse/etc, or a Golden Strong.

 

[Coastarine]

I've been dying to do a wee heavy. I recently discovered McEwan's and I love it.

Srsly.

You guys. Srsly.

 

[Chriso]

Srsly.

You guys. Srsly.

 

[niquejim]

When we were talking about the 999 brew, there was some discussion of a blonde dopplebock. I'd still like to consider something "special" like that, although I know not everyone can lager. A wee heavy is ok, I guess, but not really what I think of as a commerative type brew.

A Wee Heavy isn't Special

Try my https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f65/traq-air-owl-wee-heavy-59774/ and tell me a bigger one would not be special

 

[Coastarine]

Thank you, Chriso. It's always nice when someone knows what you're trying to say.

 

[TexLaw]

However, once a standard recipe is decided upon, I would humbly suggest that participants should limit themselves to modifying only one variable. otherwise there is no cohesiveness.

I don't want that much cohesion. Why do you think I started brewing?


TL

 

[Brewing Clamper]

Good lord! I don't even know what I'll be doing next week, you guys are out of control! I like it! Continue...

 

[mnadamn]

off topic, but I was wondering if anyone had the 6.6.6 recipie... I did a quick search but couldnt find it.

back on topic....
My all grain setup will be complete in a week, I plan on making multiple batches of this as well... this will be my second all grain brew just so i can figure out my attenuation levels first

 

[Chriso]

Here ya go: http://blogs.homebrewtalk.com/Chriso/Annual_HBT_Brew_Tracking___the_HBT_Anniversary_Series/

 

[Dr_Deathweed]

Here ya go: http://blogs.homebrewtalk.com/Chriso/Annual_HBT_Brew_Tracking___the_HBT_Anniversary_Series/

Thanks Chriso! I have been looking for that 6.6.6 for awhile but it would somehow allways evade me... Now you are mine, oh yes, you are mine....

As for what to brew this round, my orriginal sugestion for anniversary brews was:
9/9/09 - Dopplebock
10/10/10 - Strong Scotch Ale
11/11/11 - Barleywine
12/12/12 - Belgian Trippel

Since we did a barleywine for 9/9/9, what about the following?
10/10/10 - Dopplebock
11/11/11 - Strong Scotch Ale
12/12/12 - Belgian Trippel/Quadrapel

My reasoning is it will be easier to stay (somewhat) in style and jack the gravity up with a scotch and a trippel/quadrapel. Besides who does not like a dopplebock

 

[Coastarine]

No lagers please

 

[Chriso]

1) I'm with Coastarine. I'd rather not have to lager it , and 2) I've never been a fan of Doppelbocks. They're what I consider to be the definition of "cloyingly sweet". If a 7% doppelbock can make me sick, I don't want to think of what a 10% doppelbock would do to me. Even the Capital Blonde Dopplebock, which Yooper was talking about in prior discussion, is still so sweet that I enjoy the first drink, and regret the other 10 drinks in the bottle. It's better in cheesecake.

What about this:
10/10/10 Strong Scotch Ale
11/11/11 Double Porter (a'la Gonzo?) - we've not yet done one of those!
12/12/12 Belgian - e.g. Westvleterenernen (sp?) 12 or some other quad

Or, we could do a Sour Beer of some kind. Could be a fun way to provide a guided and supported environment in which to introduce more brewers to bugs?

I'd mention Samichlaus except that the description of "alcohol soaked raisins" turns me off just like an Imperial Dopplebock does. I'd mention Eisbock but it's illegal in the US.

By the time we get to '11 or to '13, maybe we want another hoppy bastard? Do up some modified 13% IIPA, like a Pliny The Younger?

What about an Imperial Brown Ale?

Another idea. For JUST one year, how about we actually do one of these concepts we've talked about, where we each ship 64oz of fermented beer - but not carbonated - to a single organizer, who combines them all into a barrel, and sours them? Then a year later, they get bottled, shipped back to their creators in a new, blended form? Call it "Extreme Collaboration"?

Bleh. Now I'm going overboard. Oh well, that's something for you all to mull over.

Keep the suggestions comin'. I guess we should do a poll, but I wanna have everything on the list before the poll gets created, that way nothing is left out.

Edit: If I had to list what I just said above, in the order of my preference, I would say: (PREFER -> DIS-PREFER)
Strong Scotch -> Double Porter -> Imperial Brown Ale -> Sour Beer -> IIIPA -> Belgian "12" -> Dopplebock

 

[Soulive]

+1 for no lagers. Now that I have to bottle my beers. I should be in for 09/09/09 and 10/10/10, I hope...

 

[Slappy White]

I vote for 10/10/10 Imperial Porter-GONZO!

 

[Chriso]

I guess I could be down with switching the order. 10's = Double Porter, 11's = Imperial Scottish Ale, 12's = Belgian Big Boy.

Hm. Not a bad idea at all.

 

[devaspawn]

I'd still like to go with the Wee Heavy for 10.10.10. I am already planning out how to get MO and GP. PLEASE! Keep it a Wee Heavy!

 

[Coastarine]

I'd still like to go with the Wee Heavy for 10.10.10. I am already planning out how to get MO and GP. PLEASE! Keep it a Wee Heavy!

:rockin: I'm with this guy.

 

[Chriso]

11/11/11 would make a fine Double Porter, IMO. I really want to do the Wee Heavy personally. Just trying to foster discussion.

 

[CBBaron]

I all for the Wee Heavy. Not that an imperial porter doesn't sound great but I'd rather a Wee Heavy.

Craig