10.10.10 Recipe Discussion Thread - The HBT Anniversary Series

[Saccharomyces]

Well, if some folks are just against the Belgian character in this, you could always just brew it up and pitch in a clean American ale yeast. A 9% golden ale fermented with Cali Ale would still be a very tasty brew!

 

[chri5]

I think I would be in for a BGSA. I have yet to do a Belgian, but the idea of one with some oaky flavors sounds quite tasty.

 

[Gremlyn]

Not sure if this has been asked, I started going through all the posts, but 19 pages is too much!

Any chance us partial mashers can get in on this? I don't think I'll have made the switch to AG before this needs to be brewed.

 

[mmb]

Not sure if this has been asked, I started going through all the posts, but 19 pages is too much!

Any chance us partial mashers can get in on this? I don't think I'll have made the switch to AG before this needs to be brewed.

Someone usually posts a PM recipe for the brew. If proper extract is/was available I'd be all for included PM brewers.

 

[flyangler18]

Not sure if this has been asked, I started going through all the posts, but 19 pages is too much!

Any chance us partial mashers can get in on this? I don't think I'll have made the switch to AG before this needs to be brewed.

Most certainly! I'd be happy to convert my recipe for you, if it is the direction we ultimately go.

 

[Gremlyn]

Sweet then

 

[flyangler18]

i think for a huge swap like this, a huge belgium isnt popular enough. some people love belgiums, lots hate them or atleast dont prefer them. i think a poll is reallly needed for something like this.

im all up for some kind of porter. a double robust porter, or triple porter, or a wood chip bourbon imperial porter. or even the triple ipa sounds great.

Not to be a priggish arsehole, but these big swaps are for premium members to cut down on welching and to keep participants accountable. So if you want to participate and voice your opinion on the 10.10.10, time to pony up (and I really don't mean to sound like a prick, and I apologize if this comes across that way).

FYI - that tripel IPA is decidedly Belgian.

Of course, participation isn't compulsory so you can certainly tell me to shove it.

Jason

 

[bkov]

Not to be a priggish arsehole, but these big swaps are for premium members to cut down on welching and to keep participants accountable. So if you want to participate and voice your opinion on the 10.10.10, time to pony up (and I really don't mean to sound like a prick, and I apologize if this comes across that way).

FYI - that tripel IPA is decidedly Belgian.

Of course, participation isn't compulsory so you can certainly tell me to shove it.

Jason

10/10/2010 is a long time away, i got plenty of time. plus, even if i buy a year now, it will be expired by the time the swap comes around

and for the ipa, i was referring to a triple(as in 3x), not tripel

 

[mmb]

10/10/2010 is a long time away, i got plenty of time. plus, even if i buy a year now, it will be expired by the time the swap comes around

and for the ipa, i was referring to a triple(as in 3x), not tripel

However, I doubt a non-supporting member's vote won't hold a whole lot of weight when the time comes to pick a style/recipe/whatever.

 

[wildwest450]

Well I am a supporting member and would like to have a poll. I don't care for the style either. But if it's the general consensus that's great.

 

[Saccharomyces]

Poll.. poll.. poll..

And I suggest that the venerable Brewpastor decide what goes up on the poll and has input into the final recipe, because, well, he just kicks @$$.

Where the heck is Chriso these days anyway???

 

[mmb]

I'd imagine a poll or informal polling will come online around the end of July. That gives a few months to get the beer brewed and then time to settle in for the long haul of aging another epic beer.

 

[mmb]

Where the heck is Chriso these days anyway???

He lurks... in the dark of night... when you least expect it.

Or something like that....

 

[Brewpastor]

I will create a poll - thread coming soon

 

[KingBrianI]

I will create a poll - thread coming soon

 

[MacBruver]

Poll is here: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/10-10-10-style-poll-117533/

 

[camiller]

[size=+2]Devil May Cry (10.10.10 Edition)[/size]
[size=+1]18-D Belgian Golden Strong Ale[/size]
Author: Jason Konopinski
Date: 3/30/09



Size: 6.0 gal
Efficiency: 80%
Attenuation: 85%
Calories: 337.83 kcal per 12.0 fl oz

Original Gravity: 1.102 (1.070 - 1.095)
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Terminal Gravity: 1.015 (1.005 - 1.016)
|======================#=========|
Color: 6.24 (3.0 - 6.0)
|=========================#======|
Alcohol: 11.51% (7.5% - 10.5%)
|=============================#==|
Bitterness: 51.8 (22.0 - 35.0)
|================================|

[size=+1]Ingredients:[/size]
15.5 lb Pilsner Malt
10.0 oz Belgian Munich
10 oz White Wheat Malt
3.0 lb White Table Sugar (Sucrose)
1 oz Galena (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 90 min
1 oz Goldings (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30 min
1 oz Goldings (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 0.0 min
1.0 ea White Labs WLP570 Belgian Golden Ale (MASSIVE STARTER)

00:03:00 Dough In - Liquor: 5.33 gal; Strike: 161.97 °F; Target: 149 °F
01:33:00 Saccharification Rest - Rest: 90 min; Final: 147.3 °F
02:03:00 Lautering - First Runnings: 0.0 gal sparge @ 145 °F, 10 min; Sparge #1: 2.05 gal sparge @ 168.0 °F, 10.0 min; Sparge #2: 2.05 gal sparge @ 168.0 °F, 10.0 min; Total Runoff: 7.61 gal

[size=-1]Results generated by BeerTools Pro 1.5.3[/size]

Your assuming 80% efficiency. Is that normal for this high of a gravity? I was under the impression that efficiency might be reduced with this big a beer.

 

[Coastarine]

Your assuming 80% efficiency. Is that normal for this high of a gravity? I was under the impression that efficiency might be reduced with this big a beer.

I'd be getting about 70% but everyone adjusts for their own efficiency.

 

[flyangler18]

Your assuming 80% efficiency. Is that normal for this high of a gravity? I was under the impression that efficiency might be reduced with this big a beer.

Good catch! I neglected to make that adjustment when I scaled the recipe - 70% is a far more realistic number for a beer of this gravity.

 

[TwoHeadsBrewing]

Why so high on the gravity? Is it on purpose out of style?

 

[flyangler18]

Why so high on the gravity? Is it on purpose out of style?

Aiming for an OG of at least 1.100 (Brewpastor mentioned it earlier in this thread) and 10 oz each of speciality malts to keep with the 10 theme. My original recipe came in at 1.081 at 80% efficiency.

 

[Saccharomyces]

Why so high on the gravity? Is it on purpose out of style?

Funny how that works on judges, impression of 'style' with big beers.

Got my scoresheets back yesterday for a tripel which was about in this range, past the upper limits for OG and %abv. Both judges notes say "light body", "low to moderate alcohol character for style" and "nice session beer". High carbonation may have had a lot to do with that, but still I was surprised, I expected to be dinged for being too boozy!

 

[flyangler18]

For those interested, the rest of the PC releases for 2009 are as follows:

Jason,

As of now, we are planning on bring out the 1450PC Denny’s Favorite 50, 3711PC French Saison and the new 3739PC Flanders Golden Ale for release on July 1st. For fall, we are going to focus on lagers, with the 2487PC Hella Bock coming back, the 2782PC Staropramen and another lager strain yet TBD.

 

[Saccharomyces]

For those interested, the rest of the PC releases for 2009 are as follows:

Any more info on the 3739PC? Is this, perhaps, the Westvleteren strain?? *drool*

 

[flyangler18]

Any more info on the 3739PC?

I emailed Brian Perkey about that strain in particular, and he described it as being a monster attenuator. Nice and dry, big fruit ester with apple/pear notes and a pronounced phenol to balance. He's unsure of the specific brewery/brand but says the probable city of origin is Ertwelde.

Sounds like this strain is going to be a winner, for sure.

 

[camiller]

Just a thought... If we end up going the BGS route, which seems likely with the current numbers in the https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/10-10-10-style-poll-117533/ , would it be appropriate to substitute candy syrup for the sugar. The reason I bring it up is that I just finished reading SnickASaurusRex's excellent write up on homemade candy syrup.

 

[MacBruver]

If you really want it to be "true" to the style, plain sugar is the only way to go... but I think if some people want to do light candi sugar, go ahead.

 

[camiller]

So I'm working out my brewing plans for the year and am thinking what to brew ahead of this for a starter. Would a Belgian blond make sense? Wyeast's style guide recommends the same yeast strains (for the most part) for both so I'm thinking yes.

 

[Saccharomyces]

So I'm working out my brewing plans for the year and am thinking what to brew ahead of this for a starter. Would a Belgian blond make sense? Wyeast's style guide recommends the same yeast strains (for the most part) for both so I'm thinking yes.

Absolutely. Something else to send for immediate consumption along with your 10/10/10 only makes it even better! :rockin:

 

[MNBugeater]

I know we haven't formally finalized the 10/10/10 brew style yet, but as mentioned earlier it is leaning heavily toward the Belgian Blonde. I have some Duvel yeast harvested from bottle that I am thinking of using on this beer.