Specialty IPA: Black IPA Darth Vader - Black IPA

Scooby_Brew · Jan 18, 2011

Darth Vader (Cascadian Dark Ale), 11 gal AG

24.0 lbs (10.9 kg) 2-row pale
2.0 lbs (0.9 kg) crystal 10L
2.0 lbs (0.9 kg) Carafa II Special
1.0 lbs. (0.45 kg) special roast

2 oz. (57 g) Centennial 60 min.
2 oz. (57 g) Cascade 45 min.
2 oz. (57 g) Willamette 15 min.
2 oz. (57 g) Cascade 0 min
2 oz. (57 g) Cascade dry hop

2 tsp. Irish Moss

Yeast: US-05

Mash: 152*F (66.7*C), 60 min

Efficiency: 72%

Darth Vader (Cascadian Dark Ale), 5.5 gal AG

12.0 lbs (5.5 kg) 2-row pale
1.0 lbs (0.45 kg) crystal 10L
1.0 lbs (0.45 kg) Carafa II Special
0.5 lbs. (0.22 kg) special roast

1 oz. (28 g) Centennial 60 min.
1 oz. (28 g) Cascade 45 min.
1 oz. (28 g) Willamette 15 min.
1 oz. (28 g) Cascade 0 min
1 oz. (28 g) Cascade dry hop

1 tsp. Irish Moss

Yeast: US-05

Mash: 152*F (66.7*C), 60 min

Efficiency: 72%

Darth Vader (Cascadian Dark Ale), 5.5 gal Extract

8.0 lbs. (3.63 kg) LME
1.0 lbs (0.45 kg) crystal 10L
1.0 lbs (0.45 kg) Carafa II Special
0.5 lbs. (0.22 kg) special roast

1 oz. (28 g) Centennial 60 min.
1 oz. (28 g) Cascade 45 min.
1 oz. (28 g) Willamette 15 min.
1 oz. (28 g) Cascade 0 min
1 oz. (28 g) Cascade dry hop

Yeast: US-05

Note: This beer was my attempt to clone Widmer Brothers W'10 Pitch Black IPA , only for convenience I used Fermentis US-05 yeast instead of German Ale (Kolsch) yeast wich I believe Widmer Brothers are using in most of their brews.

TheCarnie · Jan 18, 2011

I am officially stealing this name.

Scooby_Brew · Jan 18, 2011

Go for it. Come to the Darkside my son!

BWK900 · Jan 20, 2011

If I want to make this recipe for 5 gallons, should I just cut everything in half?

ctoungette · Jan 20, 2011

BWK900 said:
If I want to make this recipe for 5 gallons, should I just cut everything in half?

If I were brewing it, that is not the way I would do it. I would put the recipe in a calculator and have the calculator scale it down for you. It might work out to half anyways though.

Scooby_Brew · Jan 20, 2011

BWK900 said:
If I want to make this recipe for 5 gallons, should I just cut everything in half?

Yep, to make this recipe into 5.5 gal, just cut everything in half. To make it into a 5.5 gal extract recipe, use 8 lbs. LME instead of 2-row. The rest of the grains and hops remain the same, just cut the amount in half.

PS. Actually, I'm going to edit the OP right now and add a 5.5 gal AG version plus a 5.5 gal Extract version.

Stockspeed3 · Feb 17, 2011

So how did this beer turn out? Has any one else made it? Is it worth making a batch? I have never had a black Ipa till last week. It was amazing. I can not remember who made it but it sure was good. And do you have any pics of a pint of this. I would love to see the color.

TheCapn22 · Mar 2, 2011

I'm planning on brewing this one in a week or two. Love the style.

TheCapn22 · Mar 23, 2011

Bubbling away in the Carboy now, I upped the hops a bit, just cause I had extra.

Stockspeed3 · Mar 24, 2011

Let me know how it turns out and how much extra hops was added

dustinface · Mar 29, 2011

Eight pounds of what extract?

Scooby_Brew · Mar 29, 2011

8 lbs. of generic Liquid Malt Extract. Or any brand light liquid extract. Of course, if you do a partial boil add half at the beginning of the boil and half at the end (5-10 min).

dustinface · Mar 30, 2011

That's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification!

corwin6654 · May 21, 2011

Could I sub Magnum for the Centennial?

usfmikeb · May 21, 2011

I haven't brewed this before, and actually added it to my list of planned brews yesterday. However, since the Centennial is being used here primarily as a bittering hop, I don't see why not. If the Centennial was a late addition, I wouldn't do it, because Magnum doesn't impart any aromas. However, after 60 minutes in the kettle, neither will the Centennial. If you are concerned about the aroma due to this replacement, you could increase the flameout Cascade addition by a half ounce.

Magnum typically has about 25% more alpha acid content than Centennial, so you might want to check the IBUs to make sure it's still in a range you want, or adjust accordingly.

bottlebomber · Jun 2, 2011

Im pretty sure im going to brew this beer this weekend or next, and it will be my first AG brew, BIAB method. What was the OG? Where did you finish? And yes, I will be stealing the name as well

bottlebomber · Jun 5, 2011

Just pickep up the bill for this... it doesn't look like the pound of special roast is enough to make it "black" but we shall see... my LHBS had it roasted at 300L

bottlebomber · Jun 11, 2011

I meant carafa was the 300L... im boiling it as we speak. Alas I wont be calling it Darth Vader. The lb of of 300L was only enough to make it dark brown. So im thinking of calling it Lando Calrissian Ale :mug:

lol

skibumdc · Jun 15, 2011

bottlebomber said:
The lb of of 300L was only enough to make it dark brown. So im thinking of calling it Lando Calrissian Ale lol

Oh dang, that's funny.

I'm lurking around for a Black IPA recipe myself

JakeSpooky · Jun 22, 2011

I'm brewing this up as my first non-kit beer. Been in the primary about ten days now. I'm planning on racking it to a secondary this weekend, letting it sit for a week, and then bottle. Ahhh, I'm super excited.

Scooby_Brew · Jun 22, 2011

bottlebomber said:
I meant carafa was the 300L... im boiling it as we speak. Alas I wont be calling it Darth Vader. The lb of of 300L was only enough to make it dark brown. So im thinking of calling it Lando Calrissian Ale lol

As far as I know Carafa II has a color of 412 SRM. According to the Brewzor the color of the beer is 30.3. And it's definitely dark. But you could make it darker, even now if you want to. Just cold-steep some Carafa II, boil the "wort" and add it to the secondary.

bottlebomber · Jun 22, 2011

JakeSpooky said:
I'm brewing this up as my first non-kit beer. Been in the primary about ten days now. I'm planning on racking it to a secondary this weekend, letting it sit for a week, and then bottle. Ahhh, I'm super excited.

Let us know how it went...

bottlebomber · Jun 22, 2011

Scooby_Brew said:
As far as I know Carafa II has a color of 412 SRM. According to the Brewzor the color of the beer is 30.3. And it's definitely dark. But you could make it darker, even now if you want to. Just cold-steep some Carafa II, boil the "wort" and add it to the secondary.

I want to try to make this again, but I am definitely going to add more carafa, but im going to do it late in the mash. It had way too much roasty flavor to be reminiscent of an IPA. I really just want the black color and a little roasty flavor

Scooby_Brew · Jun 23, 2011

Are you sure your LHBS actually sold you Carafa II or just substituted it with something else? Carafa II is only manufactured by Weyermann and has a color of 412 RSM. I can't see how someone can get it in a lighter color. Also if you got a lot of roastiness, that makes me think that maybe they sold you something else instead...
And yes, if you like less roastiness and more color, I would add more Carafa II but only in the late mash, or just the sparge, or cold steep it separately from the mash. after all that's why we home brew - so we get exactly the beers that we like

JakeSpooky · Jun 23, 2011

Just took a sample to check the gravity (1.016, down from 1.068) and wasted not. Pretty delicious for a warm, flat, fairly green beer. Great malt character, still a little harsh on the alcohol. SWMBO loved the aroma. So, a winner all around so far.

CHefJohnboyardee · Jun 29, 2011

so going to try this!

tally350z · Aug 6, 2011

This is my first attempt at All-grain. Doing the 5.5 gallon batch.. Hope it turns out good..

JakeSpooky · Aug 8, 2011

We started cracking bottles of this about a week ago. It's delicious! This is only the second beer I've ever made, and I love it. The colour is black in the glass, but a really deep, woody red when you hold it up to the light. The stout flavour is really there, the hops aren't too overwhelming, but nice in the aftertaste. It's wonderful! Very drinkable, too. Will definitely make again.

CHefJohnboyardee · Aug 10, 2011

bubbling away in the carboy now. did the extract version and wow is this stuff dark!

the sip i took pre-yeast was a nice hops tea but it could be something people have to drink on fear factor or something.

looking forward to six weeks from now!

CHefJohnboyardee · Aug 16, 2011

i'm impatient :[

Specialty IPA: Black IPA Darth Vader - Black IPA

Help Support Homebrew Talk:

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

New Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Similar threads