Cooling wort has always been a challenge in the hot Summers in Kansas City. The water from the faucet is no 85 degrees. Even with a plate chiller I have to use about 100 lbs of ice to cool 15 gallons of wort. I spend the week freezing blocks of ice in plastic tubs and on brew day it takes all my ice to cool the wort. I have an idea I wonder if anyone has ever done. What if you were to take a chest type freezer and put a large plastic tub in it filled with either a brine solution or a glycol mixture. You should be able to chill the mixture down to around 0 degrees or even a little colder without the solution freezing. Then for chilling, put in a pump to circulate the solution through the plate chiller. In theory this should work great. You could also do the same with vinyl hose around a fermenter to control fermentation temps. For a test I just added 3 lbs of salt to 2 gallons of water and it is now at 4 degrees in the freezer and still liquid. Has anyone ever done something like this?