Anybody Seen This?!? (Williamswarn System)

Grizzlybrew · Apr 11, 2011

Anybody Seen This?!? (Williamswarn System)

Kind of reminds me of the German tabletop system, but even more inclusive. Almost seems gimmick-y and like you're sucking all the fun out of it, but I wouldn't mind trying one out for the hell of it.

http://www.williamswarn.com/

Demon · Apr 11, 2011

$5600 to brew extract beer? I'm in the wrong business.

beninan · Apr 11, 2011

yeah that seems like a load of crap. I mean, sure it will work, but for the price? And how "personal" and "home made" can you call the final product? It's like a kid's parents saying "All you have to do is put the (pre-made by mom/dad) lasagne in the oven for 1 hour at 350 degrees, and it will be all done," and having the kid say they made it all by themself.

beninan · Apr 11, 2011

Just read this on their site The-WilliamsWarn personal brewing vs. home brewing......

I feel like I'm making crappy beer now... must... buy.... product.....

stanley1271 · Apr 11, 2011

Mr Beer on steroids.

barrooze · Apr 12, 2011

"5. Too much work. Multiple vessels and transfers required. Bottling homebrew takes many hours." Riiiiight...

Rushis · Apr 12, 2011

# Poor temperature control during fermentation leads to yeast making off-flavours or headache-causing compounds.
# Poor cleaning and poor sterilisation which leads to many infected beers.
# Chronic beer oxidation due to transfers between vessels and into bottles and kegs.
# Bottled homebrew has a dead yeast layer at the bottom which contributes off-flavours.
# Old extract is been kept warm for many months on the shelf, which contributes greatly to the homebrew flavour.
# Old yeast is stored warm under the can lid which ensures a huge loss of vitality and viability, resulting in more homebrew flavours.

"Good sir, I would like your oldest can of malt extract and a yeast packet preferably shipped from Indonesia in 1956 via paddleboat. I would be best if both items have been lost at sea for past the 20 years."

oregonparamedic · Apr 12, 2011

Quack.

Pappers_ · Apr 12, 2011

Rushis said:
"Good sir, I would like your oldest can of malt extract and a yeast packet preferably shipped from Indonesia in 1956 via paddleboat. I would be best if both items have been lost at sea for past the 20 years."

stlbeer · Apr 12, 2011

Demon said:
$5600 to brew extract beer? I'm in the wrong business.

$5600 Kiwi dollars. That's $4382.01 US at today's exchange rate. Probably going to cost a bit more with shipping as they are made in New Zealand.

Maybe open up a distributorship here in the US. Now's the time to get in on the ground floor!

audger · Apr 12, 2011

# Old extract is been kept warm for many months on the shelf, which contributes greatly to the homebrew flavour.
# Old yeast is stored warm under the can lid which ensures a huge loss of vitality and viability, resulting in more homebrew flavours.

they use the term "homebrew flavor" as a perjorative description.... that is kind of insulting to every "home brewer" out there. i happen to love the flavor of my beer.

kal · Apr 12, 2011

The irony is that the "non-homebrew flavour" (ie: the lack of flavour as found in Bud/Miller/Coors) isn't available with their 7-day setup since they don't sell lager kits. They only have 3 no-boil extract ale kits at the moment.

I guess I went about this all wrong. Why build my all-grain 100% electric setup that I've documented when for the same price you can make beer easier from pre-hopped extract in a can for ~$45 for 5 gallons? Who would have thunk it?

Kal

barrooze · Apr 12, 2011

I didn't read everything on there, but if they are fermenting under pressure they could ferment a lager at warmer temps in a shorter amount of time. Not agreeing with it, and was quite amused at the uncles horrid homebrew, but oh well. Some people are rich and really lazy I guess. Reminds me of the fancy chestnut roaster commercial...

bbognerks · Apr 12, 2011

This looks like something from The Sharper Image.

kainoa · Apr 12, 2011

Bollocks....why would you spend that much just to get something that tastes like a commercial beer? If you like commercial beer, why not just buy commercial beer? $5700 just to say 'I made it?'

I don't think putting down homebrew will help them either. The reason why we homebrew is because it DOESN'T taste like commercial beer. IDK about you guys, but i really enjoy the process. I think the extra effort and time is what makes the beer special, gives it a soul and makes it rewarding.

Interesting process and good looking though. We'll see how they do

Tinga · Apr 12, 2011

I don't want people to buy these and start thinking homebrew flavor is a negative thing.

rambler · Apr 12, 2011

Great Marketing! but thats about it.

mattd2 · Apr 12, 2011

kainoa said:
Bollocks....why would you spend that much just to get something that tastes like a commercial beer? If you like commercial beer, why not just buy commercial beer? $5700 just to say 'I made it?'

I don't think putting down homebrew will help them either. The reason why we homebrew is because it DOESN'T taste like commercial beer. IDK about you guys, but i really enjoy the process. I think the extra effort and time is what makes the beer special, gives it a soul and makes it rewarding.

Interesting process and good looking though. We'll see how they do

Yep, $5700 buys a lot of beer! I only see 2 types of people actually looking at this seriously; 1. those new to homebrewing & 2. Experienced homebrewers looking to expand their brewery. Number 1 won't want to drop $5700 on a new hobby they might not like and number 2 would know better! I wonder how many they are expecting to sell?

Grizzlybrew · Apr 12, 2011

kal said:
The irony is that the "non-homebrew flavour" (ie: the lack of flavour as found in Bud/Miller/Coors) isn't available with their 7-day setup since they don't sell lager kits. They only have 3 no-boil extract ale kits at the moment.

I guess I went about this all wrong. Why build my all-grain 100% electric setup that I've documented when for the same price you can make beer easier from pre-hopped extract in a can for ~$45 for 5 gallons? Who would have thunk it?

Kal

Kal,

I feel like I'm responding to a celebrity... just listened to the BN show the other day. Great stuff, man! Your set-up is awesome. I'm seriously considering an AE set-up in the near future.

Grizzlybrew · Apr 12, 2011

Rushis said:
"Good sir, I would like your oldest can of malt extract and a yeast packet preferably shipped from Indonesia in 1956 via paddleboat. I would be best if both items have been lost at sea for past the 20 years."

bbognerks said:
This looks like something from The Sharper Image.

xdalisx · Apr 12, 2011

Just saw this on gizmodo....
http://m.gizmodo.com/5791429/williamswarn-personal-brewery-on-the-seventh-day-you-drink

Scut_Monkey · Apr 12, 2011

stanley1271 said:
Mr Beer on steroids.

bbognerks said:
This looks like something from The Sharper Image.

These were exactly my thoughts when I was watching that video. For that amount of money you can BUY an already assembled and completely flexible system from morebeer or many of the vendors on here. With that system you get to make the beer equivalent of Ovaltine.

Yeah it's easy to make "beer" with it but it's also just as easy to go buy a case considering those costs. ----- irritated

RumRiverBrewer · Apr 12, 2011

Glorified bread maker with background music from The Matrix ;o)

EarthBound · Apr 13, 2011

What a waste...

Beardedterror · Apr 13, 2011

I just did the math, and for $5700, the average US citizen would have 15 years worth of beer. (and this is not cheap canned crap). I assumed $10 for a 6 pack. Cool idea, but I don't think they'll sell many units.

phuzle · Apr 13, 2011

Beardedterror said:
I just did the math, and for $5700, the average US citizen would have 15 years worth of beer. (and this is not cheap canned crap). I assumed $10 for a 6 pack. Cool idea, but I don't think they'll sell many units.

I tried to figure out what your numbers meant there, and could not. You have to assume a rate of consumption to get to 15 years worth of beer, and you didn't mention that. So I tried to calculate your rate, and it is under a beer a day - but not a round number in any way. So, I don't think you did the math correctly, but let me know if I am misunderstanding you.

o4_srt · Apr 13, 2011

If it's any consolation, it's only 4500 us dollars, it's a company from new Zealand.

The state of home brewing in nz might be dramatically different than it is here in the us. I know it's not nearly as popular.

Kam · Apr 13, 2011

Looks pretty cool. Kind of reminds of the that coffee brew thing that makes one cup of custom coffee at a time. It probably works but jees' they're taking all the personality, character building and fun out of it....Sometimes the anticipation and risk of a good thing is part of the appreciation of it. Wonder what the manual looks like...Maybe I'm just getting old!!

Beardedterror · Apr 13, 2011

phuzle said:
I tried to figure out what your numbers meant there, and could not. You have to assume a rate of consumption to get to 15 years worth of beer, and you didn't mention that. So I tried to calculate your rate, and it is under a beer a day - but not a round number in any way. So, I don't think you did the math correctly, but let me know if I am misunderstanding you.

I found somewhere online that the average american drinks 234 12-ounce bottles of beer per year. 234/6= 39 6-packs a year. 39*$10= $390 dollars per year spent on beer. $5700/$390=14.61 years (I rounded up).

cfrazier77 · Apr 13, 2011

RumRiverBrewer said:
Glorified bread maker with background music from The Matrix ;o)

Is this were you have to pick which pill to swallow? :drunk:

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