Baron von BeeGee
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But I did slap a copy of New Lager Brewing while typing it! Actually, Noonan would probably recommend fly sparging...beer4breakfast said:You forgot to say "Amen"
But I did slap a copy of New Lager Brewing while typing it! Actually, Noonan would probably recommend fly sparging...beer4breakfast said:You forgot to say "Amen"
Excellent. Thats what its all about. If you need anymore questions answered, just holler! I think you can get rid of your holding cooler and go straight to kettle. Put fire under the kettle as soon as your 1st batch sparge hits it. That will help save alot of time....Good to see you thinking! Nice work!!beer4breakfast said:My method takes a long time and is backbreaking labor. I'm convinced I came up with one of the most time consuming and difficult ways to batch sparge. But, I've gleaned a lot of ideas from this thread to help me streamline my process. So, I'm calling this a valuable thread.
brewhead said:highly suspect. i don't think you can reasonably prove that
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jezter6 said:Man, I totally need to start warming up the first runnings before the sparge is done!
I attempted to do that today with my small batch, and got scared that it would start to boil (about 2 gal) before my sparge gone done and in the kettle. I had it on high, then turned it down because I thought I was going too fast...then once I added my sparge water it took almost 30 minutes to start boiling. I never did get a good boil, just some rolling bubbles, but not my typical turkey fryer boil.
Oh, but if batch sparging is so much faster, that will never happen...Monster Mash said:There is nothing wrong with starting the burners after the first sparge, even if it starts to boil before you get your second runnings in.
Blktre, batch sparging is faster...there's no question about it. A lot of experienced brewers have proven this time and time again. Can it be done in a way that it's not faster? Of course, especially if you're just getting your process down.Blktre said:Oh, but if batch sparging is so much faster, that will never happen...
This is a man talking out of INexperience.......next time your in KS. stop by for a beer and i will show you a fly sparge system that defeats most everything you just said..Baron von BeeGee said:Blktre, batch sparging is faster...there's no question about it. A lot of experienced brewers have proven this time and time again. Can it be done in a way that it's not faster? Of course, especially if you're just getting your process down.
I can have my wort boiling within 20m of taking my first running. You can't do that with fly sparging and get any kind of reasonable efficiency.
Is efficiency better with fly sparging? Yes, on most (but not all) systems.
Is fly sparging more traditional? Yes.
Is fly sparging more set and forget? I'd say so.
Does fly sparging require more equipment? Yes.
Which is better? Whichever is better for you. No need to make an issue out of something that just isn't an issue.
LMAO! Well, it's not my day to defeat your invincible ignorance, so carry on...Blktre said:This is a man talking out of INexperience.......next time your in KS. stop by for a beer and i will show you a fly sparge system that defeats most everything you just said..
Baron von BeeGee said:LMAO! Well, it's not my day to defeat your invincible ignorance, so carry on...
BTW, if fly sparging isn't more efficient or 'set and forget', I really have no idea why anybody would do it other than masochism.
Blktre said:This is a man talking out of INexperience.......next time your in KS. stop by for a beer and i will show you a fly sparge system that defeats most everything you just said..
Monster Mash said:There is nothing wrong with starting the burners after the first sparge, even if it starts to boil before you get your second runnings in.
So how many FLY sparges has Baron done ? Is he an experienced FLY sparger ?Sorry, but calling the Baron inexperienced is .. well...funny.
That sounds like secondhand experience to me. He doesn't say, " I tried both and I found that..."A lot of experienced brewers have proven this time and time again.
Where did I indicate I haven't done fly sparging? My first dozen AG batches were fly sparging. I switched to batch sparging for the simplicity and time savings which I've seen firsthand. My efficiency is basically unchanged other than slightly lower on grists with lots of wheat, which I can live with.brewman ! said:So how many FLY sparges has Baron done ? Is he an experienced FLY sparger ?
Of the subject, Baron says:
That sounds like secondhand experience to me. He doesn't say, " I tried both and I found that..."
I like my information straight from the horses mount, ie people who are proficient at both. Or at least lets talk about what we have done ourselves.
Baron von BeeGee said:Where did I indicate I haven't done fly sparging? My first dozen AG batches were fly sparging. I switched to batch sparging for the simplicity and time savings which I've seen firsthand. My efficiency is basically unchanged other than slightly lower on grists with lots of wheat, which I can live with.
Guys, I'm not saying one method or the other is better. I do triple decoctions which are even more poopoo-ed than batch or fly sparging combined. I'm saying do what feels right for you, but batch sparging will offer a time savings over fly sparging if both are done properly.
Laughing at the new guy on the block was to be expected. But youve never seen or brewed on my setup(s) so so im sure you cant mock it. Ive wasted many hours on other forums on this subject, so i had to throw in some jabs here too. But for real, ive got other things to worry about, like getting our 2.2 barrel brewery up and running by the time the Roselare strain is released again. Brewing twice for a oak barrel sux.Dennys Fine Consumptibles said:Sorry, but calling the Baron inexperienced is .. well...funny.
Not mocking your setup at all.
... inexperienced?? Still ROFLAO..
Needed a good chuckle in the morning. (Especially since our "Warm Weather" forecast has turned into 3 inches of snow asnd it's to cold to brew with the garage door open)
Why is this a damn thread and why do we want it to end ? Its a discussion of the merits and downfalls of various sparging methods ! Is there a problem with that ? If you don't like that subject or the thread content, then don't participate !If this doesn't end this damn thread, then it's absolutely freakin' hopeless.
At this point I'm right there with you.orfy said:I gave up on this thread but It's got me shaking my head.
Baron von BeeGee said:I switched to batch sparging for the simplicity and time savings which I've seen firsthand. My efficiency is basically unchanged other than slightly lower on grists with lots of wheat, which I can live with.
Blktre said:Laughing at the new guy on the block was to be expected. But youve never seen or brewed on my setup(s) so so im sure you cant mock it. Ive wasted many hours on other forums on this subject, so i had to throw in some jabs here too. But for real, ive got other things to worry about, like getting our 2.2 barrel brewery up and running by the time the Roselare strain is released again. Brewing twice for a oak barrel sux.
I actually cant believe you didnt man up and roll out regardles if it was snowing:cross:
Dennys Fine Consumptibles said:2.2 bbl? very nice. any pics? we're brewing junkies on here. love to see the set up.
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