What's wrong with the world imo

[beernutz]

The fact that every two bit actor who played a minor part in some obscure movie or TV series has a wikipedia page and the arguably most accomplished homebrewer of all time, Gordon Strong, doesn't.

Discuss.

 

[doug293cz]

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[PCABrewing]

The fact that every two bit actor who played a minor part in some obscure movie or TV series has a wikipedia page and the arguably most accomplished homebrewer of all time, Gordon Strong, doesn't.

Discuss.

No offense intended but, Who is Gordon Strong.

Personally I could not care less who has a wiki page and who doesn't. I don't follow any celebrity.
I appreciate those who do share useful information but even the most popular need to stand-up to scrutiny.
When the price is free sometimes the info is worth exactly that much.
And I surely would not blame Mr. Strong if the reason is based on not wanting to maintain such a page.

 

[bellhp]

My guess would be actors pay managers to promote them ... who pay people to write wikipedia pages? I mean anyone can make a wikipedia page for anyone or any thing right ?

 

[Spartan1979]

Other than his accomplishments in the BJCP program, what are his accomplishments? I'm not being snarky, I honestly don't know.

 

[bellhp]

I've never had one of his beers ... are they good?

 

[beernutz]

Sorry for being obtuse. Gordon Strong has won 3 Ninkasi awards which is given to the person who scores the most points at the National Homebrew Competition and is the only person to win 3. He's the highest ranking judge in the BJCP and has authored a couple homebrewing books and many articles in Zymurgy and other brewing publications.

You guys really never heard of Gordon Strong?

 

[bellhp]

Not till you mentioned him ... but Charlie Papazian has a Wikipedia page ... so all is right with the world.
Charlie Papazian - Wikipedia
RDWHAHB

 

[day_trippr]

IB4>DRMM

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

I know of Gordon Strong, probably from zymurgy cause I dont follow anything else that was mentioned. I can't say I disagree with the op but also agree with one mention above that maybe it was Gordon's preference to not have a wikipedia thingmabob. Personally other then this forum I have no social media and obviously that's my preference, if someone wanted to open something or write something online about my personal achievements and/or faults I would tell them to get bent. Just me but I dont need or want my life open to the public more then it already is.

 

[Yesfan]

IB4>DRMM

New acronym for me. Don't know that one.

 

[DromJohn]

Simple solution for the OP:
Create a Wikipedia page for Gordon Strong.

 

[bracconiere]

Gordon Strong.

sounds like a marvel character....


as a homebrewer all i know is Jim is dying at 98.....

 

[FloppyKnockers]

You guys really never heard of Gordon Strong?

Flash Gordon, yes. This Gordon fellow, no. Does Gordon Strong have a gravity-defying scooter and a sweet, sweet tank top? Not sure what the scooter was called... wasn't on his Wiki page.

 

[doug293cz]

IB4>DRMM

New acronym for me. Don't know that one.

"In Before" thread gets moved to "Drunken Ramblings & Mindless Mumbling" forum. Means he got his $0.02 posted before the thread got banished to the far corners of HBT.

Brew on

 

[bracconiere]

IB4>DRMM

damn i know i'm slow, but that took me a while and a helping clarification....and a refresh on the page.....and i still don't know if i get it...

i had all kinds of thoughts about asembly language? memory modules? but it was missing the A for that....

 

[bracconiere]

Sorry for being obtuse. Gordon Strong has won 3 Ninkasi awards which is given to the person who scores the most points at the National Homebrew Competition and is the only person to win 3. He's the highest ranking judge in the BJCP and has authored a couple homebrewing books and many articles in Zymurgy and other brewing publications.

You guys really never heard of Gordon Strong?

ok, so "Gordon Strong" is your "Pen Name"?

 

[lumpher]

What is wrong with all this? That people give 1 F about celebrities and what's going on with them.

 

[bracconiere]

That people give 1 F about celebrities and what's going on with them.

wait? celebrities and mr. strong would suggest any of us ever heard of him before this thread?

 

[doug293cz]

wait? celebrities and mr. strong would suggest any of us ever heard of him before this thread?

Um, Gordon Strong is a celebrity among homebrewers, or at least should be.

Brew on

 

[bracconiere]

Um, Gordon Strong is a celebrity among homebrewers, or at least should be.

Brew on

i thought it was "Charlie" .....

 

[doug293cz]

i thought it was "Charlie" .....

We as a community have more than one celebrity.

Brew on

 

[bracconiere]

We as a community have more than one celebrity.

yeah right, it's day_trippr with his keezer... he's definitely the TV star here....

edit: as far as I saw googling mr. strong...so he was a recipe person for BYO Magazine?

 

[pdxal]

Sad to say, but the homebrewing community is small, especially compared to Hollywood. A two-bit Hollywood actor still has more name recognition and interest than (even) famous homebrewers.

 

[duncan_disorderly]

The most accomplished American home brewer of all time, possibly.

 

[chthon]

You are the community of Wikipedia. If you think it is missing, create a page about him. Celebrities have their pages because people are interested in them and take the time and effort to create pages about these people. The review process tries to take care that things stay objective.

Want a Wikipedia page? Dig up the facts about Gordon Strong, then write all about it .

 

[Kent88]

One of my favorite obscure actors, Andrew Cownden, of Eureka and LoadingReadyRun / Bionic Trousers Media (/ DesertBus For Hope) lost his Wikipedia page.

 

[FloppyKnockers]

The most accomplished American home brewer of all time, possibly.

Obviously we're leaving Mel and his poo cupcake stout off the list. That guy was a legend.

 

[duncan_disorderly]

Obviously we're leaving Mel and his poo cupcake stout off the list. That guy was a legend.

Enlighten me!

 

[NSMikeD]

You are the community of Wikipedia. If you think it is missing, create a page about him. Celebrities have their pages because people are interested in them and take the time and effort to create pages about these people. The review process tries to take care that things stay objective.

Want a Wikipedia page? Dig up the facts about Gordon Strong, then write all about it .

^^^^. This. I am going to single out the OP, but wouldn't the world be better (to specifically address the the OP Title question) if instead of complaining from the sidelines, why not get in the arena and do more than just be a critic? I am reminded of many world events where bad things happened because good people waited around for others to take actions. Not that the absence of a Gordon Strong wiki page is a real tragedy but the OP sorta made himself an example to answer his own question.

Ironic since it was a nice gesture to remind us of one of the good guys who gives back to the homebrew world.

 

[PCABrewing]

sounds like a marvel character....


as a homebrewer all i know is Jim is dying at 98.....

Well Jim wasn't the greatest president, but I think his lifetime achievements are at the top if not the top.
Just my opinion.

 

[mac_1103]

What's wrong with the world, IMO, is that there are too many people who are trying to tell me what's wrong with the world and not enough people who listen when I try to tell them what's wrong with the world.

 

[FloppyKnockers]

Enlighten me!

There was a guy on here a while ago named ismellweird (search the user, read the threads, you won't be disappointed). Every post he made was even more epic than the last. It first started with how he had sewage in his kettle while he was making a cupcake stout (with actual cupcakes). Then there was one where he claimed to have had a friendship with Kato Kealin. Then one about him trying to make a barrel out of old pressure treated deck boards to do some barrel aging. Drama about his speech to text program. There are some hilarious back and forths between him and @Jayjay1976 . Sadly, Smelly Melly has stopped posting. Rumor has it, he and Kato ran off together.

 

[bailey mountain brewer]

As a whole there are a lot of things wrong with the world, the ones listed above are clearly all first world problems.

 

[duncan_disorderly]

There was a guy on here a while ago named ismelweird (search the user, read the threads, you won't be disappointed). Every post he made was even more epic than the last. It first started with how he had sewage in his kettle while he was making a cupcake stout (with actual cupcakes). Then there was one where he claimed to have had a friendship with Kato Kealin. Then one about him trying to make a barrel out of old pressure treated deck boards to do some barrel aging. Drama about his speech to text program. There are some hilarious back and forths between him and @Jayjay1976 . Sadly, Smelly Melly has stopped posting. Rumor has it, he and Kato ran off together.

Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

Sorry for being obtuse. Gordon Strong has won 3 Ninkasi awards which is given to the person who scores the most points at the National Homebrew Competition and is the only person to win 3. He's the highest ranking judge in the BJCP and has authored a couple homebrewing books and many articles in Zymurgy and other brewing publications.

You guys really never heard of Gordon Strong?

May be time to go outside and walk around a little.

 

[kevin58]

No offense intended but, Who is Gordon Strong.

Personally I could not care less who has a wiki page and who doesn't. I don't follow any celebrity.
I appreciate those who do share useful information but even the most popular need to stand-up to scrutiny.
When the price is free sometimes the info is worth exactly that much.
And I surely would not blame Mr. Strong if the reason is based on not wanting to maintain such a page.

The bigger surprise is that there are homebrewers who don't know who Gordon Strong is. Gordon is the author of Brewing Better Beer and Modern Homebrew Recipe and more. Gordon is also President Emeritus of the Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP). As the BJCP Style Committee Chairman he is instrumental updating and publishing the BJCP guidelines. He is a contributor to virtually every major beer and homebrew related magazine and frequent guest on several of the most popular beer and homebrewing podcasts. Definitely one of those who should be on the homebrewers version of Mt. Rushmore.

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

The bigger surprise is that there are homebrewers who don't know who Gordon Strong is.

I suspect most people follow content providers (forums, magazines, many video channels), not content creators (authors of books & articles, blogs, some video channels).

Definitely one of those who should be on the homebrewers version of Mt. Rushmore.

This was a topic over in that other popular home brewing forum a couple of years ago. I suspect 2023 version of the discussion would include a couple of new 'faces' (Janish? Weikert?, ...).

Homebrew All Stars (book) is an interesting starting point for anyone willing to follow expert brewers / content creators. In 2023, some of them can be found over at CB&B.

 

[bracconiere]

Well Jim wasn't the greatest president, but I think his lifetime achievements are at the top if not the top.

i was born in 78...so don't know, but when i was 18 my mom got me a homebrew kit, and it spared me from meth addiction...so i LOVE the guy! i'd say i'd cry at his funeral, but to tell the truth 98 is a good run, i was more broken up when his grandson died young.....

 

[bracconiere]

Definitely one of those who should be on the homebrewers version of Mt. Rushmore.

so a volcano? that most looks like a beer glass.....either hawaii, or the PNW....


edit: or now that i think i like my beer cold, one near a obsidian field? not that i support the cardassians......