Scotch de Silly Clone attempt

[steelersrbrun]

Just looking for some feedback and interested to see if anyone has ever tried to clone this beer.

Here are my thoughts

Recipe: Scotch de Silly
Style: Strong Scotch Ale
TYPE: All Grain


Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.78 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.72 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.079 SG
Estimated Color: 16.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 25.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 79.9 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
192.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 82.2 %
16.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 6.9 %
6.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 3 2.6 %
2.5 oz Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 4 1.1 %
1.0 oz Peat Smoked Malt (2.8 SRM) Grain 5 0.4 %
16.0 oz Candi Sugar, Clear (0.5 SRM) Sugar 6 6.9 %
1.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 60.0 Hop 7 22.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 2.6 IBUs
1.0 pkg Edinburgh Ale (White Labs #WLP028) [35.4 Yeast 9 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 233.5 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 4.25 gal of water at 173.7 F 157.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 1 steps (4.41gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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Ferment at 58

 

[hotspurdotus]

Did you ever brew this recipe? I'd be interested in the results.

How was the taste and color?

 

[steelersrbrun]

Did you ever brew this recipe? I'd be interested in the results.

How was the taste and color?

I did. It was really good but no scotch silly. I don't have beer smith In front of me but I think I came in missing my OG. So it was under on ABV. Color was a little bit light and it didn't have that solid flavor or mouth feel. If I did a re-brew I would add a little Carapils and get some heavy kettle caramelization on it and I think that might do it. If you do an alternate brew please keep me posted.

 

[hotspurdotus]

I'm planning to brew the 2nd in a series of 2 Row based Scotch Ales sometime next week.

I think I'll use a variation of your recipe; I'll post it here once I have a working version.

 

[hotspurdotus]

Ok, here's my working recipe. I'm planning to brew this on Sunday.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 5.70 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.20 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.071 SG
Estimated Color: 16.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 20.9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.2 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 2 6.8 %
6.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 3 2.5 %
4.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 1.7 %
2.5 oz Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 5 1.1 %
1 lbs Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 6 6.8 %
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 60.0 Hop 7 15.7 IBUs
0.50 oz Hallertauer [4.80 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 3.7 IBUs
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15.0 mins) Other 9 -
1.0 pkg Edinburgh Ale (White Labs #WLP028) [35.4 Yeast 10 -




Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 12.5 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 15.50 qt of water at 160.3 F 148.0 F 75 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 3 steps (Drain mash tun, 1.9 gal, 1.9gal) of 168.0 F water

Boil for 60 minutes (reduce 1 gallon of first runnings in a separate kettle for 60 minutes)

Ferment at 67F for 28 days
Age at 67F for 28 days

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A few comments:

I'm using 1/2 the cake from my previous Scotch ale as my yeast pitch.

Since I only have a 5 gallon MLT, this is a pretty thick mash (1.12 qt/lb) . I'm mashing 75 minutes, longer than usual, to ensure I get total conversion.

It's only a 60 minute boil, but reducing a gallon of the first runnings should help me get those nice caramel and toffee notes in the beer.

Thoughts?

 

[steelersrbrun]

Look great. I did the reduction on first running for a wee heavy and it works great. Mash temp looks a hair on the low side but you know your system best. I have been doing a 90 min sacc rest on all my beers....I have no idea why but it seems to have really helped head retention...weird but works for me. Looks like plenty of yeast. I have not found the magic temp for that yeast yet. Anyway it looks solid recipe wise.....we should do a scotch ale trade later in the year

 

[hotspurdotus]

Good observation on the mash temp; I've been brewing lighter beers and mashing at lower temps. I'm going to bump it to 155.

I've haven't traded yet, but it sounds fun. I'll be doing at least one more Scotch Ale in this series (using oak aging); maybe we can trade when I finished?

 

[steelersrbrun]

I'm in for the trade. I have only done one for Homebrew. Let me know how it turns out and PM for a trade when it gets cooler. Good luck on this batch!!