Germelli1
Well-Known Member
You are a bad ass my friend.
Only the days where I am brewing two batches...otherwise it sits in the brew pot overnight
You are a bad ass my friend.
This thread is officially epic...
Feck yeah, I'm a prime example.......Breathing repeatedly and maintaining a heartbeat over a period of 70+ years will eventually kill you. Bank on it.
Beyond that, all bets are off. So get your kettle and mash tun, fire up the burner and get to brewing.
Yeah! That's life in the 21st. Go with it.......I just microwaved my dinner in plastic and then smoked a cigarette. After several beers and watching the Giants win the world series!!!!!!!!!!! YEah!!!! GO GIANTS!
I just microwaved my dinner in plastic and then smoked a cigarette. After several beers and watching the Giants win the world series!!!!!!!!!!! YEah!!!! GO GIANTS!
To the OP, if you don't feel comfortable using plastics...don't! But don't come on a forum to try and open our eyes to a widespread revelation without some support. If you want some statistical analysis to help make your decision easier or your argument valid, then pay to get it done! It isn't the current users of plastic that need to prove their legitimacy to you, its you making a claim against a accepted piece of brewing culture!
The only motive you could have in starting this thread is argument...
HOWEVER, I respect the fact that you went out and tried to learn for yourself to formulate you own decision. Just when making a claim against something so widely used, people are going to need a little more evidence!
A and C) I don't care about your rants; I mean in A you contradict yourself, which is quite funny
To RubberMaid:
"I am wondering what type of plastic your
water coolers are made from. I am looking for information on storing 170
deg water in them and the possibility of chemical leaching from the
plastic. Possibly a MSDS sheet as well. Thank you. Hex"
From RubberMaid:
"Thank you for your interest in Rubbermaid, and for taking the time to
contact us regarding your product. We appreciate loyal consumers like
you.
Our water jugs are only made for drinking; they are also only made for
cold fluids nothing hot. If you put hot fluids in them they will deform
or it can ruin the lining of the cooler.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to address your concern.
Sincerely,
Beth First
Rubbermaid
Consumer Service Representative
1-888-895-2110
To RubberMaid:
"I am wondering what type of plastic your
water coolers are made from. I am looking for information on storing 170
deg water in them and the possibility of chemical leaching from the
plastic. Possibly a MSDS sheet as well. Thank you. Hex"
From RubberMaid:
"Thank you for your interest in Rubbermaid, and for taking the time to
contact us regarding your product. We appreciate loyal consumers like
you.
Our water jugs are only made for drinking; they are also only made for
cold fluids nothing hot. If you put hot fluids in them they will deform
or it can ruin the lining of the cooler.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to address your concern.
Sincerely,
Beth First
Rubbermaid
Consumer Service Representative
1-888-895-2110
That still doesn't prove a thing. You're extrapolating "leeching out bad ****"
from "deforming" with no evidence to support that at all.
But, whatever. This thread would be boring if it wasn't for the personal attacks.
Unreal. The mental gymnastics posters are making here to justify their misplaced aggression are stunning.
All he did was quote rubbermaid directly. He didn't write a single word of his own opinion. He simply did what he promised, which was to post rubbermaid's response. Verbatim.
If I ever need to form an improptu lynch mob, I'll know where to come looking for torch carriers.
Well, it's truly disappointing they won't reply with an honest answer concerning the material the inner liner is made of.
Here we go again. When a company uses chemists to design a product, they give them some direction as to how they think the product will, and should be used. Why would they say "come up with a formula for a plastic for a cooler [yes, a COOLER] that will hold COLD liquids, oh and by the way, make it stand up to heat too because homebrewers might want to use it for a mash tun." Somehow I really don't think so. There are already products on the market for holding and dispensing hot liquids, and they are not called "coolers." I really don't think Rubbermaid owes any more of an answer than they are giving, they call it a "cooler" for a reason. That said, it would be nice if they would come out with something that is made for heat. There certainly is a market for it. I also wish they would come up with a plug in cooler that would work with a thermostat when full of water for fermentation temp control, those of us who don't have the space for a chest freezer would find that very useful. Has anyone looked into where the plastic comes from? Could be from Dow chemical.
No... but I'll get on that. The source, the source... hmmm.
I guess that would hinge on what kind of plastic it is.
Now where would I find that out. Wait - I know - I'll contact Rubbermaid & ask!
Oh wait, nevermind... I just got talked down to for expecting them to answer that question. Afterall, it's not like they owe me an explanation or anything.
Here we go again. When a company uses chemists to design a product, they give them some direction as to how they think the product will, and should be used. Why would they say "come up with a formula for a plastic for a cooler [yes, a COOLER] that will hold COLD liquids, oh and by the way, make it stand up to heat too because homebrewers might want to use it for a mash tun." Somehow I really don't think so. There are already products on the market for holding and dispensing hot liquids, and they are not called "coolers." I really don't think Rubbermaid owes any more of an answer than they are giving, they call it a "cooler" for a reason. That said, it would be nice if they would come out with something that is made for heat. There certainly is a market for it. I also wish they would come up with a plug in cooler that would work with a thermostat when full of water for fermentation temp control, those of us who don't have the space for a chest freezer would find that very useful. Has anyone looked into where the plastic comes from? Could be from Dow chemical.
I wonder if the reported warping and cracking is due to putting very hot water into a cold cooler. If the lining heats up suddenly and expands, I can see why it would buckle - that's the only way it can expand, if the body of the cooler is strong enough to stay in one piece and doesn't stretch. Wouldn't it be better to start with warm water, then drain that and put in hotter water, etc., working up to the final desired temperature? I've just recently built a 10 gallon RM cooler MLT and have only tested with hot water - haven't mashed in it yet. I've tried the procedure above and so far have no problems. This is easy for me to do because I heat the water in a kettle and pump it up to my MLT - I can get the water to 120º, pump it into the cooler, turn off the pump and let it drain back through the pump into the kettle (takes a few minutes to drain), continue heating to 140º, fill and drain, and repeat until I reach the final temperature. I'm hoping this more gentle heating will prevent, or at least minimize the warping. Does anyone else do something like this? Does it work?
My this was a fun read.
Is it a bad idea to heat my mash water IN my Rubbermaid cooler over my propane burner?
This has gone beyond the level of ridiculousness.....Noone is listenning to each other, those of us who use coolers aren't going to stop, and those of you who are freaked out about it aren't going to change your tune, no matter what we say...so enough, let's all just STFU about this already and go brew how we're f-ing going to brew. You guys can play with your metal pots and zap a gap systems, and we'll use our coolers and this thread can just die....
This isn't even a fun thread to poke fun on anymore.....It's just tired....
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