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smagee said:Regarding cleaning the bottles, are you just soaking in water? If so, drop some PBW or Oxyclean in there and you'll be golden. A 24-hour soak in either gets just about anything off.
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smagee said:Regarding cleaning the bottles, are you just soaking in water? If so, drop some PBW or Oxyclean in there and you'll be golden. A 24-hour soak in either gets just about anything off.
I am assuming my last batch was infected (gushing bottles and bad taste). All of my nice swing top bottles have a film that won't budge after a day of soaking in water. Any suggestions about how to get my bottles clean is greatly appreciated. Also, would a switch from StarSan to iodophor be an issue? This is the first time I have had this problem.
Hi All,
I've just finished a Festa brew European Pilsner kit, and upon opening it up for bottling today, i noticed some little nasties floating on the top of the wort.
This has been sitting on the yeast cake since Nov 27th, I did not rack into a secondary actually "because" I am cautious about infecting my beer.
I am way overly cautious, I soak my bucket, carboy and equipment in TSP (trisodium phosphate) for usually an hour or so before and after use, and then sanitize with iodophore.
The fact that something sneaked in makes me really wonder how it got in there.
I make sure nothing that is not sanitized comes into contact with any of my utensils or equipment, and make sure my hands are clean enough almost to do surgery...lol.
I tasted the beer out of the graduated cylinder when I took a sample for the FG, and it tasted fine, nothing weird or off tasting, so I guess the question is "is it ok", or will something grow in the bottles now??
Take a look and tell me what you think, it's not much, but it's in there, so I just want to make sure it's gonna be ok.
Thanks!!
Chris
I use TSP (trisodium phosphate) to clean all my equipment, buckets and carboys, and I soak them in this solution for at least 20 minutes, then rinse really well, and then i use iodphore to sanitize.
According to the manufacturer, iodophore needs only 3 minutes to kill everything it's gonna kill, but I leave things soaking in it as long as possible, just to be safe.
Iodophore does stain plastics pretty badly, but I find that the TSP actually removes that stain after a good soaking, which I like, because i know it's doing something, so it's kind of an indicator.
I finally figured out the source of my infection.
If you look at the picture, you'll notice the scum on the top is only on the left side, it baffled me a bit, so I looked really close and found that actually, it is creeping down the inside of the bucket from the top, and then spills out onto the surface of the wort.
I then realized that when I poured the liquid Festa wort from the box, i did so on the left side, right where that infection seems to start.
Looks like even though I actually sanitized the spout of the wort container, something not sanitized made a bit of contact with the cardboard box or an unsanitized part of the plastic bladder inside the Festa box.
I knew it had to be something like that!
Amazing how little it takes to cause an infection. Makes me want to wear an NBC safe suite outside now, haha.
At least now I know, and I'll be MUCH more careful next time.
Thanks all!
Chris
Dohboy said:Not sure if this is an infection
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I have never had an infection so dont know what to do now, tip it out and start again? What can i do differently?
This looks perfectly normal to me. The yeasties are working well to make beer. The gunk on top is just the residual left from the peak of fermentation.
No worries, that's just a blow out. You need a blow off tube or smaller batch size next time you use that bucket to ferment.
The pics are way too blurry and the flash coming off of the carboy is the only thing that stands out.Spacepuppy said:Well this is after a 10 day primary and then 7 days in the 2ndary ithey broke up as soon as i moved the carboy to get a better pic, I am not sure if the big one broke up or sank but its gone now. I was going to wait it out another week and see what happens but what do you think?
aaronsawyer said:This photo is a little less about a beer infection and more about a weird looking trub after I racked to secondary. Yeast was Wyeast American Ale II with the dregs of a dogfish raison d'être. I've only been brewing a year and this is my 13th batch. Normally the trub looks like smooth mud but this looked more like cocoa pebbles. Beer tasted fine so not really worried, more curious. Anyone experience this and maybe know why??
Irish red after one month, Im almost certain this is one
bottle it up and when carbed and tasting good,refrigerate,ive had this a few times,some ive had a ring around the bottle neck,no gushers & i actually have the batches cellaring, i think the thing is its on the surface so you last bottles you may want to drink first,at least it works for me,and i havnet had bombs but a saison is turning to be pretty tasteless that has sat for months though too.Just keep an eye on them then refrigerate them when they are carbed and taste good.
i don't have that many bottles to age a beer that might not come out well. its getting dumped shortly
Did you at least taste it? Ive never dumped and 9X out of 10 they turn out good.
Irish red after one month, Im almost certain this is one
This is a Flanders Red some friends and I brewed up. I think that's a pellicle starting to form but maybe someone can help me out. We pitched Rosalaire, lacto and dregs from cantillion and all kinds of other stuff. Plus the guy I got the wine barrel from was aging a Dubble on cherries and said it was starting to taste infected... Whatever it is we have 63 gallons of it.
This could be my first infection- or its just a sign of massive head retention! This is an irish w oatmeal brewed yesterday. Fermentation was a little hot- probably didnt get below 70 degrees until early this morning.
I could use some help determining if this is an infection/contamination, and if so, what I can do with the beer.
Its an AHS Dunkel which I brewed about 3.5 weeks ago. I primaried in an Ale Pail at cold temps (as per the lager instructions) and checked it after 3 weeks. It still had a fairly significant krausen so I left it a few more days. The gravity seemed to be stable and was within 95% of the target FG. The directions said to lager, so I transferred to secondary and now, three days later, I have this:
The yeast in the primary exhibited very low flocculation at room temperatures, but when I put it back in the cold temps, it mostly settled and cleared up, however I now have these white spots on the surface. I've secondaried 5 brews and haven't seen this happen before, but its my first go at a lager and my first usage of the WLP800 Pilsner Lager yeast.
So, Infected? And if so, what now?
Thanks!
bump. I was hoping to do something with this tonight...
CasselBrewery said:While researching what is the infection I got in my Red Racer clone secondary, I stumbled on this loonnnggg thread! It sure looks cool but I don't think it is THAT cool. I smells ok but haven't tasted it it. It was dry hoped 2 weeks ago after successful primary (tasted f*ing great!), now I just want to know what it is. I will dump it cause I rather get this mentality in check cause our brewery is opening up commercially in June 2012 and if it happens at that time, down the drain it will go. I will grab a microscope tomorrow and see what it looks like.
Fermenter #1 http://www.casselbrewery.ca/graphics/IMG_2320.JPG
Fermenter #2 http://www.casselbrewery.ca/graphics/IMG_2321.JPG
Thanks for any idea of what it might be!
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