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I have a pack of Wyeast 3724 I need to use. I've done two saisons to date (Shipwreck Saison recipe from here and Boulevard Tank 7 clone), although neither are ready to drink yet.

Anyone have recipe suggestions?

I have plenty of German Pils malt ready to use...
 
HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: Farmhouse Ale
Author: Paul S.

Brew Method: All Grain
Style Name: Saison
Boil Time: 80 min
Batch Size: 6 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 7.5 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.044
Efficiency: 70% (brew house)


STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.062
Final Gravity: 1.011
ABV (standard): 6.75%
IBU (tinseth): 18.45
SRM (morey): 9.55

FERMENTABLES:
10 lb - Belgian - Pilsner (71.4%)
1 lb - Belgian - CaraVienne (7.1%)
1 lb - Belgian - Wheat (7.1%)
1 lb - Honey - (late addition) (7.1%)
1 lb - Belgian - CaraMunich (7.1%)

HOPS:
0.5 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 4.5, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 7.5
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 1.4, Use: Boil for 30 min, IBU: 1.79
0.25 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 4.5, Use: Boil for 20 min, IBU: 2.27
0.5 oz - Styrian Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 1.4, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 1.16
0.77 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 4.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 5.73

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Temp: 149 F, Time: 60 min, Amount: 4.5 gal
Starting Mash Thickness: 1.5 qt/lb

YEAST:
Wyeast - French Saison 3711
Starter: Yes
Form: Liquid
Attenuation (avg): 80%
Flocculation: Low
Optimum Temp: 65 - 77 F
Fermentation Temp: 74 F
Pitch Rate: 1.0 (M cells / ml / deg P)

PRIMING:
Method: table sugar

TARGET WATER PROFILE:
Profile Name: Marina, CA Water Report
Ca2: 46
Mg2: 18
Na: 75
Cl: 103
SO4: 56
HCO3: 220
Water Notes:
Cut water 50/50 with RO. Added 2.5g gypsum and 3.5g CaCL2(split mash/sparge). Added 1.25ml lactic acid to mash only.
 
man, honestly i like simplicity in most of my saisons.

mostly pils to 1.050-60 20 IBU's of whatever you got and toss in some aroma hops.

however, i do love brett saisons and heavily hopped saisons, but i love simplistic brews
 
This is the most recent saison I've brewed and probably the best one to date. I ended up using Wyeast 3724 as well.
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 11.00 gal
Boil Time: 90 min
Efficiency: 72.00 %

11 lbs Pilsner (2 row) (Gambrinus) (1.6 SRM) Grain 1 57.9 %
4 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 21.1 %
3 lbs Munich 10L (Briess) (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 15.8 %
1 lbs Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 4 5.3 %
2.00 oz Saaz [4.90 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 18.0 IBUs
0.55 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.00 oz Saaz [4.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 3.1 IBUs
 
man, honestly i like simplicity in most of my saisons.

mostly pils to 1.050-60 20 IBU's of whatever you got and toss in some aroma hops.

however, i do love brett saisons and heavily hopped saisons, but i love simplistic brews


I'm with you buddy. 70% Pils, 20% wheat malt and 10% flaked wheat and I'm a happy camper. Wouldn't use simple sugars or anything more heavily handed than a touch of Munich malt.
 
best saison I've made

OG 1.058
FG 1.004

60% Pilsner
20% Acid Malt (added 45 minutes in to mash)
10% white wheat
5% Vienna
5% flaked wheat

Mash 90 min @ 146
90 minute boil

.66oz Golding 75minutes
.165oz Golding 30 minutes
.165oz Golding flameout

3711 yeast

Pitched 1 bottle of Jolly Pumpkin dregs directly to fermenter after 1 day

racked on top of apricots and 1oz oak after 3 weeks
allowed to ferment an additional 3 weeks

VERY fast souring Saison, very fruity, tart, crisp and dry. One of my favorite beers I ever brewed
 
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. I'll update when I brew, probably this weekend.
 
This is the most recent saison I've brewed and probably the best one to date. I ended up using Wyeast 3724 as well.
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 11.00 gal
Boil Time: 90 min
Efficiency: 72.00 %

11 lbs Pilsner (2 row) (Gambrinus) (1.6 SRM) Grain 1 57.9 %
4 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 21.1 %
3 lbs Munich 10L (Briess) (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 15.8 %
1 lbs Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 4 5.3 %
2.00 oz Saaz [4.90 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 18.0 IBUs
0.55 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.00 oz Saaz [4.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 3.1 IBUs

This is very similar to my standard saison recipe, and it always turns out great!
 
best saison I've made

OG 1.058
FG 1.004

60% Pilsner
20% Acid Malt (added 45 minutes in to mash)
10% white wheat
5% Vienna
5% flaked wheat

Mash 90 min @ 146
90 minute boil

.66oz Golding 75minutes
.165oz Golding 30 minutes
.165oz Golding flameout

3711 yeast

Pitched 1 bottle of Jolly Pumpkin dregs directly to fermenter after 1 day

racked on top of apricots and 1oz oak after 3 weeks
allowed to ferment an additional 3 weeks

VERY fast souring Saison, very fruity, tart, crisp and dry. One of my favorite beers I ever brewed

Why the 90 minute mash and boil?
 
Go with beergolf's linked recipe, he knows what he's doing

Definitely steer clear of any saison "recipe" that has "munich" or "cara" anywhere in it. I've learned that I dont even want a bit of vienna clouding my saison yeast character. Anytime you think you need some malt character to balance out your saison, slap yourself, and think again

Acid malt I would only use for pH adjustment. If you are wanting to do a sour, let the bacteria take care of that part. Youll get MUCH better results that way
 
Why the 90 minute mash and boil?

Pilsner malt generally contains more SMM (S-methylmethionine) than other base malts, and an extended boil helps get rid of it.

SMM is the precursor to DMS (dimethyl sulfide), which isn't very tasty :mug:
 
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