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Anyone familiar with these? Information is hard to find, I'm curious about aroma, flavor, etc. Thanks all!
 
I use Northdown and Target for my own brews bittering hop additions...

Some more info on Northdown:
http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=624
http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=7603
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Northdown
http://www.bblodge.info/Homebrew-Resources/hop-chart.html (scroll down to it's listing)
http://www.schiesshouse.com/hop_properties_chart.htm
http://www.willingham-nurseries.co.uk/hops/northdown.html

All via a google search...

BTW, I really like to combine Northdown (Target too) with EKG and/or Fuggles. I recently picked up some Brambling Cross and Glacier hop pellets to try out...
 
Golddiggie said:
I use Northdown and Target for my own brews bittering hop additions...

Some more info on Northdown:
http://www.craftbrewer.com.au/shop/details.asp?PID=624
http://www.grainandgrape.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=7603
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Northdown
http://www.bblodge.info/Homebrew-Resources/hop-chart.html (scroll down to it's listing)
http://www.schiesshouse.com/hop_properties_chart.htm
http://www.willingham-nurseries.co.uk/hops/northdown.html

All via a google search...

BTW, I really like to combine Northdown (Target too) with EKG and/or Fuggles. I recently picked up some Brambling Cross and Glacier hop pellets to try out...
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All classic British noble hops, and all widly available in the UK. Check out the IBU`s of Target as they can sometimes be a bit harsh, depending on the year.
 
johnnyboy1965 said:
All classic British noble hops, and all wildly available in the UK. Check out the IBU`s of Target as they can sometimes be a bit harsh, depending on the year.
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My first round were 10.50% AA and rather nice. The batch that arrived with the other hops are 9.50% AA...

I use BeerSmith to figure out how much to add in order to hit my target/goal for IBUs... Not about to dump blind there. I also have one of the 11oz scales from Williams Brewing to measure my hops with. Should make proper amount additions much easier on me.
 
johnnyboy1965 said:
Northdown 6-8 A/A 2010 Harvest
Target 10.5-11.5 A/A 2009 Harvest

Im sorry Ive really got too much time on my hands
HTH Johnnyboy
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What does that have to do with the OP?? IMO, Target and Northdown are excellent hops. I've only used them for bittering additions, so far. If you factor the AA% of the hop, and know what the AA% of what you have on hand is, you can use the proper amount to get to your goal. Software makes it damned easy, and knowing your ingredients is key. I keep a brewlog both in software and physical form, so that I can always reference back to it when I want to brew a recipe again. IMO, that's important, IF you want the option of accurately brewing a recipe again. OR, for when you want to tweak it for the next batch.

But, this has nothing to do with Ton's question... Hopefully, he's been able to get enough information from the links provided in the thread to get a decent idea of what the hops will do for his brew. I would recommend using software to figure out how much of the hop to add. I've been ordering my hops from Farmhouse Brewing Supply. Getting them in 4oz packets. Makes it far easier to add either more than an ounce, or less than an ounce. Just be sure to properly store the hops (freezer) at all times, especially once you've opened them up. If you have access to a vacuum packer/sealer, I would use that on them too.
 
I bottled a Northdown SMaSH earlier today. Can't really say what it tasted like at this point; sort of 'hoppy' in a way that's neither citrus nor fruity nor earthy etc., but in an English way.
 
Ølbart;2962860 said:
I bottled a Northdown SMaSH earlier today. Can't really say what it tasted like at this point; sort of 'hoppy' in a way that's neither citrus nor fruity nor earthy etc., but in an English way.
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Wait until it's carbonated and at the right temp for drinking...

I've been thinking about making SMaSH batches with Northdown and then Target hops... Just to see what it would produce (one recipe for either hop, a true SMaSH)... Since I have Crystal MO on hand, I could use that and still be able to call it a SMaSH... :D

I feel like Northdown and Target both allow the flavor and aroma hops to really shine. They play more supporting roles in a brew.

I'll be very interested to know how your batch is once it's ready for drinking.
 
My SMaSH is loosely based on a recipe Kristen England (aka mashweasel, a BJCP guy) posted at the Northernbrewer forum for Crouch Vale Brewers Gold ... although he strongly advised against using Maris Otter, which is what I used: Base malt to OG 1.040 (1.036 for me, FG 1.010) and one big single addition of hops @ 15 minutes to get 35 IBU or so (whirlpool or hop stand for some time after flameout). Lovely minimalist recipe, hopefully a decent session beer. It seems a bit cloudy; perhaps my mash pH was a bit off.
 
OK, I've used a lot of Northdown and I think it is like a cross between Northern Brewer and Fuggle.

That's how I perceive the flavor.

You can find it at farmhousebrewingsupply.com
 
Golddiggie said:
I'll be very interested to know how your batch is once it's ready for drinking.
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I've been drinking this for a while now. It's an interesting beer in that it's been changing a lot: at first, it was watery and very disappointing, with a slightly fruity (challenger-like) hop aroma and some wet grain, then the fruitiness subsided a bit while a more spicy-minty Northern Brewer-like aroma became more pronounced. It's subtler than Northern Brewer, though, and I like it better.

(The malt flavour is also very good now, so it's an overall decent beer, although somewhat cloudy. Probably the Maris Otter's fault.)
 
fastricky said:
OK, I've used a lot of Northdown and I think it is like a cross between Northern Brewer and Fuggle.

That's how I perceive the flavor.

You can find it at farmhousebrewingsupply.com
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So if I combine those two I should have something close to northdown? My lhbs doesn't carry northdown but my next recipe calls for it for the flavor addition
 
It is indeed related to Northern Brewer, hence the name. Challenger and Aurora are also related to Northern Brewer. I'd say it's in the same family of flavor and aroma as its family would indicate, but I've only used it a few times. Nice hop though.
 
I used a tiny amount to dry hop an ordinary bitter that was ... ordinary. Blech! Tastes like earth. Don't use Northdown to dry hop.
 
Northdown is a hop that never let's me down in English ales. One of my favourites in amber to dark English ales. It's a key hop in Worthington White Shield, one of the classic English pale ales.

I think it's closest alternative is Challenger, but Northdown has it's own thing going on. It is described as "fresh, flowery and piney with notes of berry and spice."

I would say that the berry fruit dominates. Hint of spice. Cedar. Autumnal. Amber to dark ales. Pairs well with Golding, First Gold, Challenger. I often plump for First Gold.
 
careful, this uk website copperkettle is hacked, i got an insecure! warning!

also so is nauvoo winery website.
 

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