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Hi guys,

This is my first post in the forum but I have been brewing and reading posts for a couple months now. I am a relative newbie and have three batches under my belt.

I found an interesting article, describing a technique of using only late addition hops in a boil to achieve all of the bittering and flavouring effects in the final beer. Apparently it creates a smoother and more well-rounded bitterness and big hop flavour/aroma, however it does seem to require significantly more hops.

What do you guys think about this technique? Has anyone tried this before? Also, for hop additions at 0 minutes (2 ounces in the example recipe) would you keep that in the primary as a dry hop? Seems like a waste to dunk it and take it all out.

The link to the article: http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.php

And the recipe I am interested in trying:

Recipe: Evil Twin

This beer ends up rich and malty, yet with a devilishly huge hop aroma and flavor. It is loosely based on AleSmith's delicious Evil Dead Red. Thanks to Peter Zien for his help with this recipe.

Ingredients for 6 U.S. gallons (23 liters)
Target Original Gravity: 1.066 (16.21 Plato)
Approximate Final Gravity: 1.016 (4.08 Plato)
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70%
Anticipated SRM: 17
Anticipated IBU: 23.8
Anticipated ABV: 6.66%
Wort Boil Time: 90 minutes
12 lb (5.44 kg) British Pale Malt 3L
1 lb (0.45 kg) Crystal 40L
1 lb (0.45 kg) Munich Malt 8L
0.50 lb (0.22 kg) Victory Malt 25L
0.50 lb (0.22 kg) Crystal 120L
0.25 lb (0.11 kg) Pale Chocolate Malt 200L
0.5 oz. (14 g) Centennial pellet hops, 10% alpha acid (20 min.) (6.4 IBU)
0.5 oz. (14 g) Amarillo pellet hops, 7% alpha acid (20 min.) (4.5 IBU)
1 oz. (28 g) Centennial pellet hops, 10% alpha acid (10 min.) (7.6 IBU)
1 oz. (28 g) Amarillo pellet hops, 7% alpha acid (10 min.) (5.3 IBU)
1 oz. (28 g) Centennial pellet hops, 10% alpha acid (0 min.) (0 IBU)
1 oz. (28 g) Amarillo pellet hops, 7% alpha acid (0 min.) (0 IBU)

Extract with specialty grains option: Using liquid malt extract, replace English Pale Malt with 8.75 lbs (3.97 kg) pale malt extract. Replace the Munich malt with 0.75 lbs. (0.34 kg) Munich malt extract. Using dry malt extract, replace English Pale Malt with 7 lbs (3.17 kg) pale malt extract. Replace the Munich malt with 0.50 lbs. (0.22 kg) Munich malt extract.

Yeast: A clean neutral yeast that attenuates in the mid-seventy percent range is perfect. White Labs WLP001 or Wyeast 1056 American Ale are excellent choices. A good dry yeast option is Fermentis Safale US-56. Ferment at 68F (20 C).

Directions: Single infusion mash at 154F (68C) using a ratio of 1.3 quarts water to 1 pound of grain. While you could go with a shorter boil, the 90 minute boil enhances the blood-red color. It also adds a touch more melanoidin and caramel notes. Cool the wort quickly after the last hop addition to retain as much hop aroma as possible. Optionally, dry hop with more Centennial or Amarillo if you're a real hop monster. Carbonate to no more than 2 volumes and serve at 45 to 55 F (7.2 to 12.8 C).
 
Yep, "hopbursting" is a great way to get hops aroma and flavor in a beer.

That recipe is great. It looks suspiciously like Jamil Z's recipe, but if you say it's an original by someone else I can buy that I guess!

I just brewed a hopbursted beer the other day (totally different recipe, though!).
 
Yep, "hopbursting" is a great way to get hops aroma and flavor in a beer.

That recipe is great. It looks suspiciously like Jamil Z's recipe, but if you say it's an original by someone else I can buy that I guess!

I just brewed a hopbursted beer the other day (totally different recipe, though!).

Thanks Yooper! I cut and pasted it right out of that article I linked to so I have no clue as to its origin. I just thought it looked delicious!

And as for what to do with those 0 minute added hops, what would you recommend? Leave them in or take them out just after cool down?
 
Thanks Yooper! I cut and pasted it right out of that article I linked to so I have no clue as to its origin. I just thought it looked delicious!

And as for what to do with those 0 minute added hops, what would you recommend? Leave them in or take them out just after cool down?

It doesn't matter- once the wort is cooled they are "done", so taking them out is fine. If you don't have a nice way to remove them, leaving them in is ok, too!
 
I brewed a hoppy session red last fall using the "hop bursting" technique, and it really did add great hop aroma and flavor to the beer. Like in you recipe, I added all my hops in the last 20 minutes (however, my additions were every 5 minutes, but the effect is the same), but I used a muslin bag for all the hops so I could remove them as soon as I turned off the heat. The only thing I would do differently in the future is allow a portion of my hops to go through a full 60 or 90 minute boil (whatever would give you 1/3 to 1/2 of your total IBUs). Otherwise, I think its a great technique. Best of luck!


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If I were using this technique with extract I suppose I wouldn't even need to do a full 60 or 90 minute boil since there are no bittering hops at the start. Could I not just do a 20 minute boil and achieve the same result?
 
I've brewed this recipe twice and it has scored me a couple 38s and 39s in comps. I brewed it as-is except I used a small bittering charge of magnum (.25 ounce) at 60 minutes to bump up the IBUs. I like to turn off the burner at 0 minutes and use the immersion chiller to bring the wort down to around 170 then add the 0 minutes hop additions and cover for a 30 minute hop stand. Then I finish chilling the wort and transfer to fermenter. Works great. I think next time I brew this I will add a little biscuit malt and see how that does in a comp.
 
Definitely. Since you're getting all your IBUs from the late addition hops, you could boil for only 20 minutes and get the same result. My suggestion was just an option/variation on the hop bursting, but by all means not a hard and fast rule. Definitely play around with it and see what works best for you!


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Definitely. Since you're getting all your IBUs from the late addition hops, you could boil for only 20 minutes and get the same result. My suggestion was just an option/variation on the hop bursting, but by all means not a hard and fast rule. Definitely play around with it and see what works best for you!


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Is this still the case even if you are doing a partial mash or steeping specialty grains?
 

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