How much Pumpkin Pie Spice to add to porter?

[foxyaardvark]

I'm making a pumpkin porter for the fall based off of the NB St. Paul Porter Recipe. Here it is:

KIT INVENTORY:
SPECIALTY GRAIN
- 0.5 lbs English Chocolate Malt
- 0.5 lbs English Dark Crystal

FERMENTABLES
- 6 lbs Dark malt syrup
- 1 lbs Dark dry malt extract
HOPS & FLAVORINGS
- 2 oz Cluster (60 min)
- 1 oz Cascade (1 min)

YEAST
- DRY YEAST (DEFAULT): Safale US-05 Ale Yeast. Optimum
temp: 59°-75° F

I was wondering how much pumpkin pie spice I should add to this. I don't want it to be overpowering but I want it to have an obvious presence. I do enjoy some spiced beers and I'm trying to make something that might be reminiscent of TREAT (Imperial Pumpkin Porter) by Midnight Sun Brewing. I was told at the home brew store to put the entire 2 Tablespoons in but from what I've read that sounds like a lot. What do you guys think?

 

[Hello]

This is a 5 gal brew, right? In a pumpkin spice ale kit the spices were 1 tblsp. I would say that's how much you should add.

I too was curious even though I brewed my ale and found this thread. May be useful.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/how-much-pumpkin-pie-spice-pumpkin-ale-138589/

 

[Sir-Hops-A-Lot]

That sounds like good advice. It is easy to overspice your beer (then, you are %$#ed). It's much better if there is a little hint that compliments the other flavours in the beer.

 

[billl]

My personal take is to add maybe half of what you think you want to the boil.

Once the beer ferments out, you can make a spice tea. Basically, a cup of water and an tablespoon of spice boiled for a few minutes. Add a bit to the brew, stir, taste. Continue adding until you get to the level you want. That way, you dial in to the exact level you are looking for.

 

[foxyaardvark]

It is the 5 gallon brew. I was leaning toward trying about 1 tablespoon so I think I'll give that a shot and add more if i need to. Thanks for weighing in all.