Well it's not exactly hard cider if I'm using store bought apple juice but its really bothering me the fact that I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. About a month ago I bought kedem brand apple juice from stop n shop because it was the cheapest apple juice and I looked at the ingredients and it said it did not include potassium sorbate. Well I just dumped that batch because I almost threw up when I smelled it because it never fermented and it smelled horrible. Yesterday I started apple & eve apple juice from Walmart and it still looks like the same thing is happening. I'm doing a 1 gallon batch, crushed a campden tablet waited 24 hours before putting Lalvin ec118 and a little wyeast nutrients and again it looks like nothing is going on. Is it the apple juice that secretly has potassium sorbate in it that it just doesn't say in the ingredients? Did anyone ever use these brands I searched multiple times and couldn't find anyone that used the brand I'm using. I'm about to just give up and wait until I can get my hands on natural apple cider but its a little difficult considering I'm from Brooklyn and there are no farms around here. Any suggestions?